Sources for learning jazz bass movement
#1
Hi, is there a source for bass work for jazz music?

I'd like to learn more bass walking. Since I don't have a teacher, am looking to see what kind of patterns to play on the accordion. I do play some piano, but the voicing is totally different. 

Was contemplating going to a bass guitar musician to get their input on how a bass player approaches jazz, but that is a totally different instrument.

I have also seen references on this site on how to get like the major 7 and #4/b5 sound using other chord structures. Is there a source for this, or will I have to create my own based on theory and what I hear?

Anyone point me in the right direction? Much appreciated
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#2
Hey Valde,

Here are a couple of resources that I like that might help you:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ-nZTgy57w

This video is somewhat cryptic but if you watch it slow, and follow his fingers, it may help you.

This page gives you some theory and interesting combinations:

http://www.dannychesnut.com/Music/Accord...hcomb.html

I'm sure there are some good books out there. One thing to do would be to look at the chords on a standard from a "Real Book" and try them out using the combinations from above. Simplify them if you have to.

As far as walking bass, there are many patterns that bassists use, depending on the complexity desired and underlying chord pattern. You can try something simple, like 1,3,5,3,1 of the chord or a longer pattern like 1,2,3,5,6,b7,6,5,3,1. It's up to your taste. You can also use "voice leading" in your walking bass, which is to play 1 half step above or below the 1 of the next chord on the 4th or "and" of 4th beat. You can also make up patterns over 2 or more chords, and use chromatics in your walking bass. There is no "one size fits all" solution, "If it sounds good, it is good." As they say.

Goid luck!!!!
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#3
Nice vid Tom, thanks... I like this guys knowledge
https://youtu.be/DWM4ODFOrYU
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#4
Cory Pesaturo was asked this very question at a workshop last year, and his answer consisted of a couple of points...
1. LOTS of listening to the jazz you like and listing/hearing the bass lines
2. Practice.

I would tend to think that playing your bass line along with whatever jazz you like and learning to improvise along would definitely be a step in the right direction.
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(25-06-2019, 01:45 PM)Valde002 Wrote: Hi, is there a source for bass work for jazz music?

I'd like to learn more bass walking. Since I don't have a teacher, am looking to see what kind of patterns to play on the accordion. I do play some piano, but the voicing is totally different. 

Was contemplating going to a bass guitar musician to get their input on how a bass player approaches jazz, but that is a totally different instrument.

I have also seen references on this site on how to get like the major 7 and #4/b5 sound using other chord structures. Is there a source for this, or will I have to create my own based on theory and what I hear?

Anyone point me in the right direction? Much appreciated
I have a book, "Jazz Theory and Improvisation Studies for Accordion" by Ralph Stricker and Frank Marocco, that gets right down to exercises in left and right hand. It presents probably everything you need to know to advance from intermediate or to claw your way up from a casual noodler to a competent noodler.
I found it at    http://www.henrydoktorski.com/store/Jazz_Theory for $32.95 plus tax/handling. Henry has a review of it on that site.

Craig
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#6
Have you seen www.arrigotomasi.com. I invested in this a couple of years ago but it's way over my head. Worth the money though just for all the unimprovised sheet music!
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#7
https://youtu.be/xYSQXlLkPCc
Right or wrong make it strong...when in doubt miss it out...
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#8
I have an older book I bought about 20 years ago by Ralph Stricker and Frank Marocco. Lots of bass work. Not sure if it's still in print.

It's more of a homemade "notebook". Spiral bound and maybe 1/2 inch thick. Probably less than 100 pages.

Edit: I found a link for it:

https://picclick.co.uk/JAZZ-THEORY-AND-I...27367.html
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