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Accordion & Bandonion

I know the reed composition and frames and all that are different in a bando versus an accordion. But I think the "Bandonion" register (sometimes aka the "Piano" switch) does a pretty nice job of rendering a bandoneon-ish ambiance for tango. I do think a 2-voice LM articulates the air more expressively than a big gorilla for what is, after all, a dance-music-based genre.

But technically the bando is LH, isn't it? Do LMMH boxes have an LH register? Does that give an even more bando-ish feel than LM? I think I have a 4-voice vintage Hohner 37/96 from my early PA years like 20 years ago, I'll have to look.
 
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Any fans of the music of Argentina's wondrous tango PA maestro, Ildo Patriarca? His soulful interpretations of traditional tangos and Piazzola's nuevo tango are one of a kind. There are lovely examples of his playing viewable on the 'tube as well as a couple of short documentaries. When he passed away in 2014, the obit in Argentina's La Nacion was headed, "" Ildo Patriarca: el hombre que tocaba "como les dioses" ""

These two recordings are classics, both on the cloud as well as findable as CDs:

"Verana Porteno"--Entire record here:




"Hollywood-Paris"



His FB page is full of wonderful photos and info:


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OuijaBoard said:
I know the reed composition and frames and all that are different in a bando versus an accordion. But I think the "Bandonion" register (sometimes aka the "Piano" switch) does a pretty nice job of rendering a bandoneon-ish ambiance for tango. I do think a 2-voice LM articulates the air more expressively than a big gorilla for what is, after all, a dance-music-based genre.

But technically the bando is LH, isn't it? Do LMMH boxes have an LH register? Does that give an even more bando-ish feel than LM? I think I have a 4-voice vintage Hohner 37/96 from my early PA years like 20 years ago, I'll have to look.
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Thanks for the info OB.

I think the bandonion is tonally a lot different to this particular accordion. It's certainly brighter and more "metallic" sounding to my ear. The accordion is milder and soothing in tone, perhaps "woodier" sounding. I could listen to the accordion for a long time because of the more softly spoken voice. The bandonion seems bolder and more assertive. I almost feel this Pigini accordion is somehow more closely related to the harmonium than it is to the bandonion, but I'm not entirely sure why... I don't think it's got anything to do with the keyboard design - maybe it's in the tone.

OuijaBoard said:
Any fans of the music of Argentina's wondrous tango PA maestro, Ildo Patriarca? His soulful interpretations of traditional tangos and Piazzola's nuevo tango are one of a kind. There are lovely examples of his playing viewable on the 'tube as well as a couple of short documentaries. When he passed away in 2014, the obit in Argentina's La Nacion was headed, "" Ildo Patriarca: el hombre que tocaba "como les dioses" ""

These two recordings are classics, both on the cloud as well as findable as CDs:

"Verana Porteno"--Entire record here:




"Hollywood-Paris"



His FB page is full of wonderful photos and info:


www.facebook.com

Ildo Patriarca

Ildo Patriarca. 972 likes. Ildo Patriarca - El decano de los acordeonistas argentinos - (10/05/1939 - 10/07/2014) , es mi humilde homenaje a mi padre musical , - Alejandro Paredes -
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Thanks for highlighting Ildo Patriarca. He was great!

He reminded me a little of the Spanish accordionist Enrique Ugarte. He was a favourite of mine for many years. To me, his accordion (Dallape) is beginning to get a little closer to the bite of the bandonion.

 
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I forgot about Enrique Ugarte! IIRC, he's done more than one recording in different genres--Yep, I see on Amazon there's a musette one, a "Classics" one, a Basque one, etc. I think I had at least one of them, but the CD covers appear to have been changed over the years.

Re the more "mellow" found of the PA versus the bando--I wonder if some bando notes are MH and some LM. Or if some are LH. No idea.
 
I had the pleasure to listen to Enrique Ugarte in a very small - almost private - venue.
What a wizard on his Dallape - I will never forget this awesome concert.
 
PhiliGol said:
I had the pleasure to listen to Enrique Ugarte in a very small - almost private - venue.
What a wizard on his Dallape - I will never forget this awesome concert.
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Those are the kinds of events that become amazing memories.

The closest I ever came to something like that is while being in Vienna a few years ago in between Christmas and New Years, I was walking around and as I was passing a church heard singing. Following the music, I pretty much walked in on the dress rehearsal of the Vienna Boy's Choir for their New Year event...so I took a seat for the following 2 hours and enjoyed. We were perhaps 5 people there besides the choir, orchestra and production people, it was incredible... but I'd gladly trade it for a memory like yours. :)
 
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I had the pleasure to listen to Enrique Ugarte in a very small - almost private - venue.
What a wizard on his Dallape - I will never forget this awesome concert.
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I don't know how much accordion playing Mr Ugarte does these days as he seems to do a lot of orchestral conducting too. I first heard of him over 25 years ago but it was just from seeing CDs in a record shop. I have never heard anyone talk about him, except you @PhiliGol. I guess he must be very famous in Germany?

He reminds me a bit of Klaus Paier - he seems to be very professional and he never skimps on his music projects. Even his special line of Austrian built accordions are beyond the norm. When I see his YouTube video's it's like he's the Austrian Richard Galliano, but yet I've never heard anyone talk about him. I guess he must be very famous in Central Europe?

The video trailer is pretty cool - he's playing with a woodwind quintet.

 
Enrique is at least known among (accordion) insider in Germany.
Yes he conducted several orchestra. I definitely prefer to listen to him playing solo, duet or with orchestra.
The last time I've seen him he played together with a great violinist.
They performed some classics, gipsy, songs from the golden 20's - simply awesome.

Since you mention him: I also saw Klaus Paier performing in Salzburg together with cellist Asia Valcic.
Also Klaus is mainly known among accordion insider. You bet that he's an excellent player an accordion enthusiast.
If you browse through his homepage https://www.klaus-paier.com/index.html you'll find a lot of information on his projects including a chapter about his custom-built accordion - hope I'm not ruining your Sunday afternoon by luring you to stay on the PC :unsure:

And as a very lucky man I also had the pleasure to see Richard Galliano live in the jazz-bar of Hotel Bayerischer Hof in Munich.
What to say - a memory for life.
 
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PhiliGol said:
Enrique is at least known among (accordion) insider in Germany.
Yes he conducted several orchestra. I definitely prefer to listen to him playing solo, duet or with orchestra.
The last time I've seen him he played together with a great violinist.
They performed some classics, gipsy, songs from the golden 20's - simply awesome.

Since you mention him: I also saw Klaus Paier performing in Salzburg together with cellist Asia Valcic.
Also Klaus is mainly known among accordion insider. You bet that he's an excellent player an accordion enthusiast.
If you browse through his homepage https://www.klaus-paier.com/index.html you'll find a lot of information on his projects including a chapter with about his custom-built accordion - hope I'm not ruining your Sunday afternoon by luring you to stay on the PC :unsure:

And as a very lucky man I also had the pleasure to see Richard Galliano live in the jazz-bar of Hotel Bayerischer Hof in Munich.
What to say - a memory for life.
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PhiliGol, I have also heard of some absolutely world class German accordionists like Stefan Hussong etc.

However, outside of classical music, in the popular or folk music scene, who would you suggest to listen to?
 
However, outside of classical music, in the popular or folk music scene, who would you suggest to listen to?
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Honestly I'm not so much into folk music and don't know so much about today's top-notch folk-music player.
To me it's still Slavko Avsenik who not only developed his own sound but also was a decent player and trailblazer for many players following him into this genre.
A group (no longer playing together) who took this genre into actual songs is the Global Kryner Sextett (from Austria) with their accordionist Anton Saupruegel - just listen to his solo on "Something stupid" - awesome!
Very popular on the diatonic is Herbert Pixner - fascinating multi-instrumental player and composer - one of his signature compositions: "Vierteljahrhundert Dreiviertler"
And there is Andreas HInterseher - another great idol which I'll never reach. He's the accordionist of the quartet "Quadro Nuevo".
All members are living close to my home so fortunately I can often enjoy their concerts. :D
 
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Thank you dak. I had heard of Steve'n'Seagulls. That's a great music video too!

Thank you PhiliGol. I knew of Andreas Hinterseher too - he seems to really appreciate the wooden Victoria Poeta.

I now have a good list to continue my "music appreciation" with.

Thanks again.
 
Thank you PhiliGol. I knew of Andreas Hinterseher too - he seems to really appreciate the wooden Victoria Poeta.
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You're welcome.
Yes Andreas has a few of 'em and also a Vibrandoneon made by Victoria.
As this wasn't enough he also does a good job an the Bandoneon he uses for some pieces.
 
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Walker said:
Thank you dak. I had heard of Steve'n'Seagulls. That's a great music video too!

Thank you PhiliGol. I knew of Andreas Hinterseher too - he seems to really appreciate the wooden Victoria Poeta.

I now have a good list to continue my "music appreciation" with.

Thanks again.
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I believe it's also a wooden Victoria bandoneon he's playing here. Unisonoric, it appears . . .


 
A short while ago, soon after I joined this illustrious cohort of musicians and accordionists, someone posed a question to the effect of asking whether the accordion could actually perform well with other instruments.
Since then the answer, in the (very) positive, has been displayed on this site with considerble regularity.
Marvellous things, these free-reed boxes in their glorious array of shapes, sizes and musical qualities and the genres in which they are employed.
This has become/is an educational journey of great joy for me and I thank all of you here who have contributed to it with your postings.
 
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