B griff accordion with French bass system?

[ArtMustel]

I found this video about a B griff accordion with French Stradella bass system and it makes me wonder if this is a common configuration, does anyone know if it was intended for a particular country? I've seen many C griff with either Stradella or Belgian basses but never a B griff with French basses. Hope that someone in the forum can tell me about this instrument. Thank you!

 

[Cheshire Chris]

Is that the system with three rows of bass notes and three of chords, rather than the normal stradella 2+4?

Thanks,

Chris

 

[ArtMustel]

Exactly Chris, a minor third on the first row(next to bellows)and no diminished 7th.

 

[oldbayan]

Interesting. Usually French players use C-griff. You can set that configuration on the Roland FR-series!

 

[debra]

For the first 10 years or so of playing the accordion I had a Crucianelli PA with 3+3 bass. Balkan B griff accordions have 3+4 bass (leading up to 140 bass accordions). In Belgium 3+3 was very common, both with Belgian bass system and with "International", regardless of what the treble side was (PA or CBA with "do1" (C griff), "do3" (B griff) of "do2" (B griff moved one row over).

 

[ArtMustel]

Thank you Paul, your response clears it up.

 

[losthobos]

Great combination.... Wish id started on a B system as allows you to slur from flat to natural in the same way a piano does. Ie dragging the hand down the keys... Difficult maneuver on C system as you have to push up against the flow of the stepped keyboard... And the three row bass again makes them flat 3rds and 7ths close by...
Pah... I'm too weathered to change my ways now.... But if i had my days again itd be 3x3 bass with B system griff for sure...
Good enough for Johnny Meijer, Dominic Phaats then sure good enough for me...

 

[Caboose]

I've never heard of one like that!, I just have a Baldoni Bartoli B grif accordion with the typical Stradella Bass system that you see on most accordions as far as I'm aware; major third, root, major chord, minor chord, dominant 7th chord, diminished 7th chord. No shifting of the diminished chord, so my transition from piano accordion to CBA was much non-existant for the left hand.

 

[drsqueezyface]

I have one. It is a Saltarelle arcadia. B system French bass. Ordered specially. The French bass enables interesting bass runs in minor keys. Also if I want a chromatic bass run it is easier. If I get chance I will post a recording of a little bass arrangement in an Em mazurka. I have been playing diatonics for 40 years so did a little reasearch on systems and tried c and b before going for the b system. Dr d.

 

[drsqueezyface]

https://youtu.be/jOCAgQo1Yig
very simple and short example in a 3/4 tune - happy to take comments/ crit as I am newbie to CBA

 

[MikeOR]

Both my Gwerder DA7 and my Roland FR1x have a choice of the two types of 3/3 "French" Stradella