Can anybody identify this Brazilian style?

[maugein96]

Ive been looking at Brazilian accordions again, as I love the music, but there are so many different categories that I cannot quite get my head around some of what Im listening to.

Found this guy who runs an accordion retail outlet in or near the Curitiba area. He demonstrates loads of different PAs and appears to play several local styles.

Anybody any idea what category this tune would fall into, if it has a category?



The accordion is a Noble, of considerable vintage by the look of it. Brazil is full of old PA accordions, which seem to last forever there.

P.S. Sorry this is in the European board, but there isnt a board for World music.

Sorry, just had to put this one on as well. I know this a choro as Ive played it on guitar, but check the name on the front of the accordion. Bet he never sells that one to anybody from an English speaking country!

 

[donn]

Old school samba (though I could be wrong, not being a serious student of these things.) It's a classic tune, but can't dig up the name.

 

[maugein96]

Thanks Donn,

It was kind of screaming out Samba at me, but I got the impression it may have been some variation on it, as the Brazilians are prone to do. The tune was vaguely familiar, but I havent got a clue what its called. That leap down the keyboard he does at the start sort of threw me, but there is definitely a samba rhythm there right enough.

He repairs and tunes accordions and there are some demos of him working on his you tube site. Shame I cant speak Brazilian Portuguese as there is some interesting stuff on there.

I like this guys style, Not too complicated, but he has that X factor as we say over here.

Heres him playing a tango, in an upbeat Brazilian fashion.

 

[donn]

Sorry, just had to put this one on as well. I know this a choro as Ive played it on guitar, but check the name on the front of the accordion. Bet he never sells that one to anybody from an English speaking country!

Though the rhythm comes out about the same, to my ear (and it isnt him, thats a legit interpretation though the beat is a little frantic.) Maybe theres genres, and theres forms - the choro crowd played a lot of tunes in samba form, and those are now sambas in the choro genre. Im a terrible musical historian.

Maybe he could sell it to an old person from the US. Might refer to Dick Contino?

 

[maugein96]

The Brazilians seem to have thrown all the theory books away when it comes to music. Maybe that's why I like it, but I don't know if I'll live long enough to be able to identify all the different types of it without captions. Maybe I should just learn a few tunes without worrying what type of music category they belong to.

Could be Dick Contino's accordion right enough. Most older UK types wouldn't take offence at the name either, it's the younger crowd that are the problem, and it probably only began to be used as an insult over here about 30 years ago. It's more common in England than it is here in Scotland, but it's there just the same. There has been a steady decline in the number of people named Richard over the years due to that very fact, but there sure are a hell of a lot of D***s nevertheless.

 

[Ganza]

Hi guys,

Im pretty sure it's choro. Choro has a few different rhythms. One of them became the samba rhythm(s) we know it today (2/4, with emphasis on the second beat).

Interestingly I think the French accordionists and those from the American "Golden Age" of accordion think they're playing sambas BUT they're actually playing choro or bossa novas e.g. Tico Tico is a choro, not a samba.

Anyway, there is alot of blending of musical forms in Brazil... Pretty sure that's choro though.

 

[Ganza]

P.S. Sorry this is in the European board, but there isn't a board for World music.

Awhile ago I asked for a South American music board, or at least "Latin", but wasn't thought to be necessary.... There's a few people on here though who like music outside Europe/USA as well, so I think we should have one.

Mods?

 

[maugein96]

Ganza,

Not seen a lot of posts re Latin/South America on here other than yours and mine. Maybe they just need to amend the header to "World Music", but I'm not sure if it will happen. It would be great if there was a South American index, as I think members would benefit from the diversity it could provide. Classical, folk, and general light music seem to be the most popular musical topics, and it appears that relatively few members are keen to stray outside those domains. To be fair, that's the way it tends to be here in Scotland at least. Here the accordion is mainly used for what is known as country dancing music, although the repertoire includes some other material with a Scottish flavour. All non-Scottish accordion music is simply referred to as "Continental", whether it is a French waltz or a Brazilian choro!

 

[donn]

Im pretty sure it's choro. Choro has a few different rhythms. One of them became the samba rhythm(s) we know it today (2/4, with emphasis on the second beat).

On second listening, I will go along with that - indeed it is choro. And it's samba, but as you say that isn't uncommon for choro.

The wikipedia entry actually helps here --

Structurally, a choro composition usually has three parts, played in a rondo form: AABBACCA, with each section typically in a different key (usually the tonal sequence is: principal key->relative mode->sub-dominant key).