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Ganza
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Hi,
can anyone please identify this new musette (?) tune by Ludovic Beier?
I love it!
Thanks
can anyone please identify this new musette (?) tune by Ludovic Beier?
I love it!
Thanks
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maugein96
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Hi,
Not sure, but it sounds like one of his own compositions. Here is a link to his discography website, and you might be able to identify the tune if you scroll through all of the numbers in it.
http://ludovicbeier.com/#/discographie/3304326
Hes possibly the biggest name accordionist in France, and what is very pleasant is that although he is one of the new generation he plays in a traditional style. His repertoire is heavy on jazz and gypsy (manouche), but as he aptly demonstrates with this clip, he is no slouch in the valse musette genre either.
Im tempted to say dont try this at home, even if if you manage to identify the tune and get the sheet music. Ludovic Beier is literally one in a million, and I would reckon it would take another accordionist in a million to be able to play like he does. Mind you it was older generation players who played in a similar style to him, who persuaded me away from the full three voice musette into the world of bassoon reeds in tone chambers, and very expensive accordions. Problem is that the fancy accordion never made me a better player, but I still get a lot of pleasure out of kidding myself that I may have been a top player if Id started younger.
The You Tube posting was made by Benny Hennebel, whose late father, Albert, was a top Belgian accordionist from West Vlaanderen, just over the border from Dunkirk.
Hope you manage to identify the tune, and good luck if you try learning it. I like the tune a lot, but Ill leave Mr Beier to play it, as I reckon he makes a slightly better job of it than I could!
Not sure, but it sounds like one of his own compositions. Here is a link to his discography website, and you might be able to identify the tune if you scroll through all of the numbers in it.
http://ludovicbeier.com/#/discographie/3304326
Hes possibly the biggest name accordionist in France, and what is very pleasant is that although he is one of the new generation he plays in a traditional style. His repertoire is heavy on jazz and gypsy (manouche), but as he aptly demonstrates with this clip, he is no slouch in the valse musette genre either.
Im tempted to say dont try this at home, even if if you manage to identify the tune and get the sheet music. Ludovic Beier is literally one in a million, and I would reckon it would take another accordionist in a million to be able to play like he does. Mind you it was older generation players who played in a similar style to him, who persuaded me away from the full three voice musette into the world of bassoon reeds in tone chambers, and very expensive accordions. Problem is that the fancy accordion never made me a better player, but I still get a lot of pleasure out of kidding myself that I may have been a top player if Id started younger.
The You Tube posting was made by Benny Hennebel, whose late father, Albert, was a top Belgian accordionist from West Vlaanderen, just over the border from Dunkirk.
Hope you manage to identify the tune, and good luck if you try learning it. I like the tune a lot, but Ill leave Mr Beier to play it, as I reckon he makes a slightly better job of it than I could!
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That's funny, I listen to Gus Viseur's 1940s recording of Flambee Montalbanaise quite a lot and there is that much ornamentation on this L. beier version that I did not recognise it as the same. I see a strong family resemblance, is it the same tune? I'm embarrassed that I have to ask but I can't tell. Is the L. Beier recording like the same template but some different notes? Good videos anyway, thank you.
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Nonny Mouse
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Hello,
I listened to this and thought of Jo Privat. Sounds, similar in some ways to his Balajo, but it's not.
Whatever it is, it's fabulous playing!
I listened to this and thought of Jo Privat. Sounds, similar in some ways to his Balajo, but it's not.
Whatever it is, it's fabulous playing!
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maugein96
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Still trying to find the name of this tune. In the You Tube comments Tony Di Vincenzo, a professional French accordionist, has asked Ludovic Beier in French if it was one of his own compositions as he hadn't recognised the tune. That would tend to suggest it wasn't a jazzed up old standard. However, he obviously hadn't realised that the tune had been posted by Benny Hennebel, who hasn't answered his question.
Benny is a drummer/singer who is now based in Houtkerque, France, just over the border from his home town of Poperinge in Belgium. I've contacted him by e-mail and hopefully we'll get a reply, as I've written to him in his native Flemish (Vlaams) which they also speak in that part of France.
Benny is a drummer/singer who is now based in Houtkerque, France, just over the border from his home town of Poperinge in Belgium. I've contacted him by e-mail and hopefully we'll get a reply, as I've written to him in his native Flemish (Vlaams) which they also speak in that part of France.
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maugein96
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Received a nice e-mail back from Benny Hennebel, but unfortunately he cannot identify the tune either. He suggests that I try to contact the great man Ludovic Beier himself, and has provided me with contact info.
I'll give it a try and see how we get on.
I'll give it a try and see how we get on.
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Ganza
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Wow, thanks for all your detective work everybody!
No, im not planning on attempting it any time soon, id just like to seek out other versions.
Cheers
No, im not planning on attempting it any time soon, id just like to seek out other versions.
Cheers
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maugein96
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Hi Ganza,
No problem, I've contacted Ludovic Beier (in French) and am just waiting for a reply. The tune doesn't seem to be on any of his CDs, but it's obviously been recorded somewhere.
If you like it Ganza then just have a go at it anyway. I find with these more complicated waltzes it's more about getting the basic melody over, with the embellishments being a sort of bonus if you can manage them. The last thing I'd want to do is discourage anyone from playing what they want. It's very typical of a lot of the "swing" type valses, although I would liken the style more to that of Armand Lassagne or Tony Fallone than any of the other players referred to above.
Ludovic Beier has tended to concentrate on gypsy swing and jazz in recent years, although he can play just about everything he turns his hand to.
No problem, I've contacted Ludovic Beier (in French) and am just waiting for a reply. The tune doesn't seem to be on any of his CDs, but it's obviously been recorded somewhere.
If you like it Ganza then just have a go at it anyway. I find with these more complicated waltzes it's more about getting the basic melody over, with the embellishments being a sort of bonus if you can manage them. The last thing I'd want to do is discourage anyone from playing what they want. It's very typical of a lot of the "swing" type valses, although I would liken the style more to that of Armand Lassagne or Tony Fallone than any of the other players referred to above.
Ludovic Beier has tended to concentrate on gypsy swing and jazz in recent years, although he can play just about everything he turns his hand to.
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maugein96
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Ludovic Beier, or probably his agent, has kindly responded. The tune is called Hot Waltz, and heres a copy of the score for those brave enough to try it. Im going to have a go and Ill let you know how I get on.
Brilliant.
I'll print it and have a go myself.
It's very kind of the publisher to be so responsive and provide the sheet music.
If you can get their Web address we should include it in the thread to give them more exposure and perhaps a few more sales.
I'll print it and have a go myself.
It's very kind of the publisher to be so responsive and provide the sheet music.
If you can get their Web address we should include it in the thread to give them more exposure and perhaps a few more sales.
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Ganza
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Amazing, that is very generous indeed from them!
Thanks guys, id love to hear your efforts! Its going to be awhile before i.attempt anything like that!
Will save it to my computer though.
Thanks guys, id love to hear your efforts! Its going to be awhile before i.attempt anything like that!
Will save it to my computer though.
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maugein96
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Link to Benny Hennebels site is http://www.accordeonrama.fr
There are a lot of free music scores listed under the artistes concerned. I can recommend the ones by Yves Leynaert, from the quaintly named village of Killem, near Dunkirk (Dunkerque), which are slightly less challenging on the old fingers. Funny thing about Dunkerquois players is they seem to prefer the standard basses over the Belgian system, unlike other French players from near the Belgian border (Lille, Roubaix etc) who tend to play Belgian basses.
There are also direct links to various players sites if you want to buy CDs from them, although in some cases you have to order by telephone, which is a shame, as if you dont speak the players native language then youre snookered.
There are a lot of free music scores listed under the artistes concerned. I can recommend the ones by Yves Leynaert, from the quaintly named village of Killem, near Dunkirk (Dunkerque), which are slightly less challenging on the old fingers. Funny thing about Dunkerquois players is they seem to prefer the standard basses over the Belgian system, unlike other French players from near the Belgian border (Lille, Roubaix etc) who tend to play Belgian basses.
There are also direct links to various players sites if you want to buy CDs from them, although in some cases you have to order by telephone, which is a shame, as if you dont speak the players native language then youre snookered.
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maugein96
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Well Ganza,
Printed off the score, played the first few bars without too much trouble, then got absolutely nowhere with most of the remainder. Eric Bouvelle and Ludovic Beier are in a league of their own with French musette. I reckon I'd need to listen to Hot Waltz night and day for a good few weeks so that I would have any chance of playing it near the tempo in the clip.
Most of the tunes I play, except the ones I make up as I go, are pretty well known French musette style numbers, and they're quite easy to remember. I've never been a good sight reader, but even still, doubt whether I'd ever get this one down like Mr Beier.
It's what I would call a "demonstration" type tune, designed to take the player's skills to up near maximum, and obviously to tantalise the audience. If you look at the expressions on his face, you'll know what I mean.
I can manage most of Jo Privat's stuff, and that's not easy, but Jo never went much above 60mph with most of his arrangements. This guy is doing well over a ton!
Printed off the score, played the first few bars without too much trouble, then got absolutely nowhere with most of the remainder. Eric Bouvelle and Ludovic Beier are in a league of their own with French musette. I reckon I'd need to listen to Hot Waltz night and day for a good few weeks so that I would have any chance of playing it near the tempo in the clip.
Most of the tunes I play, except the ones I make up as I go, are pretty well known French musette style numbers, and they're quite easy to remember. I've never been a good sight reader, but even still, doubt whether I'd ever get this one down like Mr Beier.
It's what I would call a "demonstration" type tune, designed to take the player's skills to up near maximum, and obviously to tantalise the audience. If you look at the expressions on his face, you'll know what I mean.
I can manage most of Jo Privat's stuff, and that's not easy, but Jo never went much above 60mph with most of his arrangements. This guy is doing well over a ton!
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