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Danse Macabre with a vengance.

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Try this for size you expert squeezebox operators - and without your written score ;-)





My mind is well and truly boggled.

Is he a human, a robot, a speeding bullet???
 
A very creditable performance. Among the best-played accordion versions of this piece I have seen.

Funny you should mention "without your written score."

Perhaps people should look at the written score more often, so they remember what the composer actually wrote, and see how much of the performance they recognize.

One thing I don't understand is why people seem to prefer adapting piano arrangements, when they try Danse macabre (and quite a few other pieces) on accordion, instead of looking back at the original. I think one would do much better by either going back to the original (which Saint-Saens thoughtfully provided himself in three versions, for orchestra, for violin and piano, and for 2 pianos), or to the very creditable organ transcription.

This is a performance of an exceptionally faithful accordion transcription... of Vladimir Horowitz's rearrangement of Franz Liszt's piano arrangement. It does a remarkable job of replicating Horowitz's and Liszt's added piano-specific effects on accordion. The only problem is that, three generations removed, it's quite far from the original piece. I am reminded of the way that modern churches carefully reproduce the King James Bible, not updating the spelling of a single 17th-century word, but not worrying about the issues of going from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English and not worrying about how different 16th-century Catholic English and 17th-century Protestant English translations of the same passages were.

That flashy arpeggiated bit at 0:41, for instance? Saint-Saens didn't write that. Liszt inserted an extra 12 bars of tremolo chords spanning 3 octaves instead of one (and turned an ordinary D major chord into a B minor seventh --- or "D6" if you consider Liszt the first jazz pianist) when he arranged it for piano solo. Horowitz decided Liszt's extra chords were too static and not flashy enough, and replaced them a complicated figure spanning 5½ octaves and adding C, C#, and E into the mix. Leaving our accordionist friend the question of how to re-condense those back onto the space available on his keyboard (which he managed very well.)

You could spend the rest of the week, laying out these 4 versions side by side (or listening to the 4 versions, or printing out the sheet music of the first 3 and following along with the accordion video) and observing similarities and differences.

[In the spirit of completeness: let me also give credit to our own Paul De Bra, who went back to the original source for his arrangement for accordion orchestra that aimed to capture some of the flavor of the full-orchestra version.]
 
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Seigmund wrote: "I am reminded of the way that modern churches carefully reproduce the King James Bible, not updating the spelling of a single 17th-century word, but not worrying about the issues of going from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English and not worrying about how different 16th-century Catholic English and 17th-century Protestant English translations of the same passages were."
To which my reply is that one should never confuse religion with reality.

On the point about returning to the composers' original score, a question to likewise consider is whether the published version is a true copy of the original music, as played by said composer.
Also since many composers did/do create different versions of each work for various instruments/groupings/orchesras etc. just what is it that demands total dedication to those scoresheets which are presently available?
I would be much in favour of historical accuracy for particular purposes if such a thing as 'historical accuracy' should actually exist, but it is the music that reaches the listeners' ears and how each listener perceives it that really matters, in my view.
 
Yes, Zevy, I too was intrigued with the manner in which he used the chin registers and alternated their use with those on the keyboard.
I think that he might have been doing a bit of practice on getting that coordinated ;-)
 
I probably tried to make too many points in one post, and diluted my message by doing so.

My main thought was that moving from orchestra/string quartet/organ to piano brings in a whole host of challenges, related to the piano's inability to sustain at constant volume. (There's a whole bookful of tricks on how to do it - the simplest are things like replacing held notes with octave-tremolos.) A bundle of inverse problems arise when you arrange piano music for orchestra.

Accordions have a lot more in common with woodwinds and with organs than they do with pianos in how they produce their sound. On general principle it seems to me that orchestra->piano->accordion is just about guaranteed to both a) make the arranger's job a lot harder than it has to be and b) result in a final product that is less faithful to the original than it could have been.

Full disclosure: I consider myself a composer first, violinist (distant) second, accordionist third. I don't advertise myself as an arranger - I have done a little of it, by doing it well with someone else's music is hard.)

FFingers made some interesting comments, including this one:

"Also since many composers did/do create different versions of each work for various instruments/groupings/orchesras etc. just what is it that demands total dedication to those scoresheets which are presently available?"

In the 20th- and 21st-century context, the presumption is that the groupings on offer are the only versions you can legally perform without special permission. If you write and ask for permission, you may well get told no, or the composer may make a new arrangement for you, or may designate an arranger he'll allow you to hire; he is quite unlikely to let you roll your own.

150 years ago, the landscape was a bit different, in two ways. One, as there were no recordings, there was a big market for home sheet music, and writing a version of an orchestra piece for piano or small ensemble was almost like offering CDs for sale at a concert. Two, before international copyright treaties, Saint-Saens couldn't stop Liszt from performing his own arrangements outside France; his choices were to gently encourage Liszt to do something they both liked, or to hold his nose and let Liszt do whatever he pleased. (He was still alive when Liszt made his arrangement, and they knew each other, but I have no information whether they discussed Liszt's arrangement or not.)

Now, there are transcriptions -- attempts to be as faithful as possible to an original -- and arrangements, where the arranger is deliberately making certain changes. And either a third category, or an extreme version of arrangements, where someone takes old themes and makes a new piece out of them: here we have, for instance, Mozart's Don Giovanni, Hummel's Potpourri for Viola and Orchestra, and Liszt's Réminiscences de Don Juan.

My personal bias is that I either am as faithful as I can be (changes will only be to, say, simplify a piece for high school band), or I explicitly write a new piece. I don't have much patience for pieces that call themselves arrangements but add a bunch of original material, just as I don't have much patience for conductors (or soloists or theatre directors or movie producers) who claim to know better than the original authors .

I think it's abundantly clear that Saint-Saens's intention is preserved in the several variations he made of his own work, all of which handle things like bars 13-16 (D major chord held for 4 bars) the same way, and that Liszt wanted a piano showpiece not a literal transcription. (And our featured performer needed an accordion showpiece for the Coupe Mondiale, for a bunch of the same reasons Liszt wanted piano showpieces.)
 
Speaking of rabbit holes: you might enjoy watching two different organists play Danse macabre. (Both of them change very few notes, but they are on two different instruments and have two different strategies to timbre changes, and in several places they use quite different articulation. The first has 3 manuals (not 4 as I originally stated - Lemare's arrangement was for a 4-manual instrument, so to play it on 2 or 3 manuals, you need extra register changes) and a bunch of presets, and mostly makes timbre changes by moving from one manual to another. The second... well... let's just say his chin isn't quite big enough to push the register switches.)

The effect at 0:20 in the first is a startlingly good rendition of pizzicato cello and bass on an organ.



 
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Incredible performance indeed! I made an arrangement for quintet and for sextet and it takes that many players to not even come close to this solo performance!
 
I ran across another organ accordion arrangement of Danse macabre that I hadn't heard before, and thought it'd be handy to add it to this thread rather than start another:

It is a considerably less flashy arrangement compared to the one that started this thread. Simplified a bit, compared to the original, rather than having extra ornamentation added. But some nice close up views of the fingering and the register changes.

Is "классик" (classic) another Russian make I've not seen before? Or simply a badge added to an older (badgeless) Jupiter to distinguish it from the modern Jupiters?

 
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Thanks @NigelB for sharing your arrangement and the Accordion Meltdown version. I goes to show there are so many different ways of playing a piece of music.

On a different note, to be honest, I am not really a massive fan of the composition, but to me the Ratoi version on piano accordion is a little bit more engaging than the button version by Shmelkov. I don't really know why, it's not the virtuosity that impresses me. I find the Ratoi performance punchier and the lines of music a bit clearer and more defined, as well as being a little bit more dazzling. However, I like the flexibility of the bayan in accessing the low octave on the treble, it's useful, though not essential. But overall I do prefer the Ratoi performance, the tune just sings for me on Ratoi's accordion.

However, I could look at the impressive Shishkin version on button accordion, which is very flashy indeed. He would give Ratoi a run for his money in terms of virtuosity. However, I just find Ratoi's performance strikes a balance that suits my ears more. One is not better or worse, just different. These musicians all play at such a high artistic level that objective technical matters and mistakes etc are not a consideration - it becomes subjective, which you like the sound of more.



One side note - I once heard a friend of mine (who does not play the accordion) describe some classical accordion music, not related to the recordings above. It was about some particular Russian bayan piece. Sadly he said, at some point we need to be careful that a performance doesn't become a circus act. Yes, it is really impressive seeing the man who can spin plates, so many plates, without dropping one, amazing. But at the end of the day, it's still a circus act. Ouch, was my reply. It goes to show not everyone appreciates music in the same way...
 
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Is "классик" (classic) another Russian make I've not seen before? Or simply a badge added to an older (badgeless) Jupiter to distinguish it from the modern Jupiters?
The "классик" is a Tula professional accordion, https://www.harmonica-tula.ru/catalog/bayany-garmoni-akkordeony/bayany/kontsertnye/bayan-bn-5-2/. How it differs from the identically specced and more well-known "Мир" (Mir) other than aesthetically is unclear to me. See some discussion here: https://goldaccordion.com/id/6112/.
 
Thanks, lordzedd. (And I even have a Tula catalog/price list sitting around somewhere... but I apparently did not read it carefully enough before.)

I also don't see any different besides the outside details.
 
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