Guarania accordion from Paraguay

[maugein96]

Yet another style from South America, this time from Paraguay, featuring the Argentinian accordionist, Daniel Franich.

WARNING:- This clip contains still photographs, which may be construed to be of a suggestive nature. If anybody finds them offensive, can you please jog my memory as to why that might be the case?

 

[JerryPH]

The "friends/foes feature is incredibly helpful in weeding out the wheat from the chaff.

I myself enjoyed the music and love the Argentinian flavor a lot, there is a lot of passion in their music.

 

[maugein96]

The friends/foes feature is incredibly helpful in weeding out the wheat from the chaff.

I myself enjoyed the music and love the Argentinian flavor a lot, there is a lot of passion in their music.

Thanks Jerry.

Your comments and advice are appreciated.

The music is not very well known outside of South America, and I also find it interesting and pleasant to listen to.

[edited by mod]

 

[Anyanka]

Okay, let's try this again.... I 've removed two posts and edited another for off topic rambles. Please please remember that if you write something with tongue in cheek, it often arrives as a punch in the face, however innocent your intentions. If you don't like something on here, either move on and ignore (you can unfriend people whose comments wind you up!) or contact a moderator.

Now back to talking about MUSIC.

 

[Stephen Hawkins]

Hi John,

Yes, the music is very sweet, with just a hint of erotic decadence.

The TV often displays much more explicit images, but rarely does it feature such exquisite music.

I wouldn't want to listen to it all the time, but I very much enjoyed the clip you have provided.

Kind Regards,

Stephen.

 

[losthobos]

Nice one John.....always best to leave with a bang.....you're contributions will be so missed can't really see myself checking in any more either...adios amigos...

 

[Stephen Hawkins]

Dear John & Terry,

I am saddened to learn that you are leaving the forum, but fully understand your reasons.

From a personal point of view, and perhaps a selfish one, I hope that you will both reconsider.

Kindest Regards,

Stephen.

 

[JerryPH]

I agree. Sometimes a little time away helps instead of a permanent leave. Its the good people that make the board what it is. Don't let others drive you away.

 

[maugein96]

Thanks for the kind words of support, Jerry.

I'm going on the substitutes' bench for a while to see if I can cure my tendency to get too irate. I believe I had too many irons in the fire and was having trouble keeping up with them all. You'll remember I also had an unjustified episode of "red mist" with your good self a couple of years back. Seems I'm getting worse now I'm retired.

Incidentally, I came across your Roland tutorial on You Tube. Very well done indeed. Cleared up a lot of things I never knew about them, so you never know what might happen in the future.

Kind regards,

John W

 

[maugein96]

Dear John & Terry,

I am saddened to learn that you are leaving the forum, but fully understand your reasons.

From a personal point of view, and perhaps a selfish one, I hope that you will both reconsider.

Kindest Regards,

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen,

As Ive said in another post, a season or two as a spectator might make a difference. I sometimes tend to get too involved in issues I dont know much about, and usually end up regretting it.

As far as Im aware Terry has his own reasons for leaving, and they are not directly linked to my own withdrawal from the front line.

I thought I had disabled my ability to sign in to the forum, but it seems it never worked, so Im still able to post. Ill maybe start off posting biennially and work up to occasionally, depending on how it goes.

Cheers,

John W

 

[Francisco SC]

Hi John,

Im really saddened to hear youve decided to stop being an active poster... Ive been really enjoying your posts.

Thanks a lot for this thread too. Guarania is one of my favourite South America styles. In the area where my wife was born there is a strong Tupi-Guarani influence (herself being partly of Tupi Native American ancestry). She remembers her mother singing a popular guarania as a lullaby to her younger sisters. This one:

 

[maugein96]

Hi Francisco,

I feel bad at having started a thread then pulling out, but I became incensed by the way the discussion developed. Ill send you a PM (personal message) about it.

I had never actually heard of Guarania music before you mentioned it, and was fascinated by the clip I posted to begin the thread. Ive always enjoyed South American music, and there are (or were) several other members who were interested in Brazilian styles.

As far as I can ascertain the accordionist in the clip is Brazilian, although youve explained that various styles merge into others across the borders.

I had seen Evaldo before, and he sometimes plays tunes with a European flavour (marches, waltzes etc) on the same Roland accordion.

That particular clip is a beautiful tune, and your wife must surely have great memories of her time in her homeland. Sadly, I have no interest at all in the music of my own country, and entertain myself by piggybacking on the styles of various other countries. Guarania is my most recent discovery and I can assure you Ill be listening to a lot more of it very soon.

Please check your e-mails and/or forum PM facility, as Ill send you a message in a few minutes.

Regards,

John Walker

 

[JerryPH]

Incidentally, I came across your Roland tutorial on You Tube. Very well done indeed. Cleared up a lot of things I never knew about them, so you never know what might happen in the future.

Thanks John, there will be several more, I just need more free time. So many projects... so little time.

 

[Francisco SC]

...
As far as I can ascertain the accordionist in the clip is Brazilian, although youve explained that various styles merge into others across the borders.
...

The clip is Brazilian as you say. While the national instrument in Paraguay is harp (which they play beautifully there), one can say that Brazils national instrument is accordion. Thats why when searching for Argentinean o or Paraguayan accordion music, a lot of results will be Brazilian accordionists playing Argentinean or Paraguayan tunes.

 

[maugein96]

...
As far as I can ascertain the accordionist in the clip is Brazilian, although youve explained that various styles merge into others across the borders.
...

The clip is Brazilian as you say. While the national instrument in Paraguay is harp (which they play beautifully there), one can say that Brazils national instrument is accordion. Thats why when searching for Argentinean o or Paraguayan accordion music, a lot of results will be Brazilian accordionists playing Argentinean or Paraguayan tunes.

Thanks Francisco,

Im learning all the time. Youll be aware that In Europe our national boundaries tend to be more clearly defined, especially for those of us who live on an island! I dont know much about most European national music styles either, although in the Balkan region a lot of the music from one area is played in various adjacent countries, albeit in different styles. Youll probably be aware that there have been national boundary changes in that area in fairly recent years.

The picture Im getting is that the same thing occurs in the Parana area of Brazil, which I knew lay on the borders with Paraguay and Argentina. However, until you explained the position, I was unaware that certain music styles have no real defined boundaries there. The music is often interchangeable, but the choice of instrument will often depend on the nationality of the player, with perhaps a slight change of style?

So we now know that Argentinian Chamame and Paraguayan Guarania are also popular in Brazil, and are not confined to their respective countries of origin. To a lot of people that may not be much of a big deal, but Ive always had an interest in geography, as well as music, and find it all very interesting indeed.

 

[Tom]

Hi John and Francisco,

Thanks for this music, it's very cool. I've not heard this type before, being more familiar with the gaúcho style, which I believe I've seen featured here.

I've a friend from Curitiba, in Paraná (note the á for your geographical interest.) Incidentally, it's the Paraná River which forms the boundary of Paraguay and the State of Paraná, as well as that of Paraguay and Argentina, a fact that undoubtedly features in the cross pollination of musical styles. Puxem o fole meus amigos!

 

[maugein96]

Hi John and Francisco,

Thanks for this music, its very cool. Ive not heard this type before, being more familiar with the gaúcho style, which I believe Ive seen featured here.

Ive a friend from Curitiba, in Paraná (note the á for your geographical interest.) Incidentally, its the Paraná River which forms the boundary of Paraguay and the State of Paraná, as well as that of Paraguay and Argentina, a fact that undoubtedly features in the cross pollination of musical styles. Puxem o fole meus amigos!

Hi Tom,

Glad you like it, and Id never heard of the music either until Francisco drew my attention to it. As he says most of the players who use the accordion to play it are Brazilian.

I have a Danish keyboard that I use to communicate with relatives in Norway, and need to remember to switch it back to UK English again. My start pages and spam adverts all tend to be in Danish, which makes it easier to ignore them. A Norwegian keyboard requires a decision to be made over the two recognised versions of the language, and its just too complicated.

Or rather I thought it was, until I decided to put a Spanish keyboard on. From a choice of no fewer than 21 options according to the country concerned, Ive finally settled for a generic Latin American version, but its taking an age to load. Ill need to work at getting the hang of all those accents. Wonder if there are any method books, and if youre allowed to use your thumb?

Liked your little Portuguese quip about the bellows, but I reckon three keyboards will be enough to cope with, especially if you need to also communicate occasionally in Pakistani Urdu, when youre reading from right to left. .

!mean I what know you if, یہ سب بہت الجھن ہو جاتا ہے

 

[Tom]

Hmmmmm, not sure I got that one!

 

[maugein96]

Tom,

The last sentence starts off in Urdu, and reads "It all gets rather confusing", in the Urdu script, before I finished the sentence in English. I couldn't do anything else but keep writing backwards in English, because If I had written the English words from left to right, the sentence would have been out of context. From left to right it would have read, "If you know what I mean, confusing rather gets all it."

It was a rather gauche attempt by me to draw attention to the fact that trying to remember what more than one keyboard did was extremely difficult. When I was in the military we used to train members of the Iranian Navy, and they wrote Farsi, or Persian, from right to left. They were taught basic English and we had to make sure they were reading any instructions from left to right in case they sank a ship or two!

When I worked on the buses in Glasgow, my conductor was a Pakistani chap, named Mohammed Din, who hadn't lived in Scotland for very long, and still spoke a mixture of Urdu and "Glasgow English". We had a great time speaking to each other in sentences such as the one I attempted to illustrate. Here is a typical example:- "What time do we leave, Mo?" "Time when three past the quarter, big man!", with "big man" being Glasgow slang for "boss".

Hopefully you'll get it this time. Shame it had nothing to do with accordions or Spanish, but I tried!

 

[maugein96]

Hi Francisco,

I found a website which specialises in the music of Paraguay (all styles). You can listen to some of the tunes on mp3 files, and sometimes there is more than one artiste, so you get a few different versions of the same tune.

It looks as though you may need to buy the partituras from the website owners, but Im not sure, as I cannot really work it out. My Spanish is pretty much non-existent.

Heres the link to the site in case it is of interest to you, unless you were aware of it already.

http://portalguarani.com/museos.php?pormustytr=MTA4