Guerrini president 2 Oro

[cristib]

Has anybody seen this accordion for sale lately in UK? A few days ago appeared on ebay and in a moment of excitement i just pressed buy now button... price 3870 gbp.I have managed to get hold of the so called owner his name Adrian from cech republik..he says...anyways...i asked him when can i come to collect he said not possible as he won't be at home till the end of the month...he s in the north sea.
I knew then it s a scam and there is no accordion for this price.
I found the same pictures on reverb ad which was live like 4 years ago...
I called ebay and explained them, they reassured me that i will get my money back and there's no way they will allow him to get the funds just have to wait for the stated postage date to pass.
My question is to you guys what is he chasing what s the aim of this or is there something im missing here?
Thanks for help!

 

[debra]

Happens all the time. Scammers offering accordions for sale for less money than they are worth... trying to get people to fall for a payment method where they cannot get the money back. It's been a long time since I bought anything through Ebay, but when I did winning a bid or pressing buy now did not include any automatic payment on my behalf... It may have changed now.
I am a bit worried about that "stated postage date" because the seller could well send something, just not the item you thought you were buying... I have only ever bought an expensive item (an accordion of course) through an auction site that includes an escrow service: the seller only gets his/her money after the buyer has confirmed that what was received was the item that was bought and that it arrived safely.

 

[cristib]

Thanks!

 

[dak]

I am a bit worried about that "stated postage date" because the seller could well send something, just not the item you thought you were buying...

Record on camera the act of opening the package, with a continuous record before breaking any labels or seals (which should be clearly visible and legible). Having a witness along may be useful, but the camera recording should definitely help to document any suspected "not what it is supposed to be" scam.

 

[breezybellows]

Record on camera the act of opening the package, with a continuous record before breaking any labels or seals (which should be clearly visible and legible). Having a witness along may be useful, but the camera recording should definitely help to document any suspected "not what it is supposed to be" scam.

My wife once ordered something on eBay that was never delivered. Although what days it was delivered.
We took the tracking number to USPS and they confirmed that the delivery address was not our address. USPS provided a letter confirming that fact. But eBay shockingly declined our claim.

We then had to file a dispute with the credit card company to get our money back. I was very disappointed with eBay because there was no ambiguity in this case. Shipping company says the tracking number has a different delivery address.

 

[Vladimir M.]

Hi,

or is there something im missing here?

I don't know what you're missing there. As for me, I'm missing here (on your photos) at least an indicative photo of the inside of the box. For example, like this:

Was there something like that in the ads? If not, were you really not interested in the condition of the instrument inside???

Your photos match these sold items:


"Occasional" seller with a small number of items and zero feedback. Oh my...

Everyone learns from own mistakes in life, only the price is sometimes too high.
So good luck seeing your money back again!

Best regards, Vladimir

 

[cristib]

It turned that this guy was a scammer i have been reimbursed by ebay.i don't buy such expensive accordions without checking them in person but being purchased from ebay i knew i had the choice to return it after properly checking the inside...the seller was away and there was no way of visiting him to view...another red signal...anyway ....the price was to good to be true
Thanks for your advice

 

[Pipemajor]

Happens all the time. Scammers offering accordions for sale for less money than they are worth... trying to get people to fall for a payment method where they cannot get the money back. It's been a long time since I bought anything through Ebay, but when I did winning a bid or pressing buy now did not include any automatic payment on my behalf... It may have changed now.
I am a bit worried about that "stated postage date" because the seller could well send something, just not the item you thought you were buying... I have only ever bought an expensive item (an accordion of course) through an auction site that includes an escrow service: the seller only gets his/her money after the buyer has confirmed that what was received was the item that was bought and that it arrived safely.

I bought an expensive item (a car) on FB Market Place for a not unrealistic price, which included very detailed engineer's reports, full video and photo description, copy of the "owners" passport, and also paying the money into an Escrow service.
The car didn't materialize, and it turned out the "Escrow" service was also a scam, run by the fraudsters.
Luckily I had my funds returned by the bank as they concluded that I had made all reasonable efforts to protect myself.

 

[dak]

The car didn't materialize, and it turned out the "Escrow" service was also a scam, run by the fraudsters.

Yes, that's a popular one. Then there is a bunch of "overpayment" scams where you are being "paid" for some services or wares (watch out for generic "I am very interested in your item" contact messages) but too much and get tasked for "passing on" a major portion of the money (you may also be paying services/workers as part of a "job"). But the transactions you make from your account are irreversible/non-traceable, and the cheque you received is invalid and bounces. If you are lucky, because then the amount of damages to you will likely be the price for your lesson.

If you are unlucky, the source of money exists. Then it will likely come from the bank account of someone who had cheques stolen or lost and wants the money back. That will get you into serious trouble with the police.

And if you are really really unlucky, the source of money persists. Congrats, you have become part of an organized crime ring's financial operations. That will be a lot of fun when it finally blows up.

A scam that already concludes by taking a bunch of money from you once tends to be the cheapest way to earn experience points.

 

[cristib]

Ebay is the worst platform to buy and sell something!

 

[Pipemajor]

Ebay is the worst platform to buy and sell something!

Well, at least Ebay do offer a refund if not as described/ not delivered