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My father had a 1800-mid 1800's Giuseppe Verdi one of a kind accordion. When he passed he wanted me to find its value and sell it. He didn't have the technology to do the research like we have now. He played the accordion since he was 4 years old. My Papa came to USA from Italy when he was a boy it was custom, at least in my father's family to entertain guests. That was my Daddy's job since he was little. My father was a great musician and was well known in our tri- state area.
I found a small little music store in our city and when I walked in with the accordion the young man's mouth fell open. I was wanting to know more about this beauty. He told my husband and I that it was from the early to mid 1800's and was used to play for family gatherings or on the streets. And back then the fancier your instrument was, the more prestigious you were and would make or money. He said he would have to open it up to see the condition and how much work had been done to it. He explained that every time someone worked on one they would initial and date it with pencil inside. He carefully unscrewed the screws and astonished that there were no initials on it. So he proclaimed that he was the first person to open it until Verdi made it!!! He carefully put it back to together. I asked the value and he couldn't tell me as he had never seen a Verdi in this great condition.
I'm looking for an appraiser to give me a ballpark value. I've been told 10,000 and I've been told more. I've been told to get ahold of the Smithsonian and ask them. They did a series called The River of Song years ago. It's about the different types of music along the Mississippi River. They had interviewed my Father when they reached our cities. My husband and I are retiring this year and I don't want to store it or quite frankly don't want to give to one of our kids. I want to honor my father's wishes. I live in Eastern Iowa right on the river. I can not find an appraiser. Just curious if anyone has any Ideas? By the way, this beauty still sounds so sweet. The only thing wrong is the leather strap has worn and broken. I would greatly appreciate any information. Thank you!
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A very nice family heirloom. As an accordion it, assuming all the reeds sound and are vaguely in tune, is probably in the three to five hundred dollar range for someone who wants a compact lightweight accordion and is willing to accept a short (34 key) keyboard and a 48 bass LH section without the sevenths or diminished chords. The keyboard is a bit out of level and there's almost certainly work to be done on the valves but there are folks who relish vintage accordions and will work with that. You probably don't know off hand but I'd guess it has 2 or perhaps 3 voices in the treble and three or four in the bass. No switches on either. There are a couple of Accordion Museums out there ( one right up 35 in Superior) and it would surely be a welcome addition.

"Mr. Verdi"* - or the craftsman who made it- would undoubtedly be proud to know his accordion was still working a century later, but-though I could well be in error (again)- I'm afraid that notions of four figures for this accordion are probably unsupported. The maker may well have been a skilled craftsman, but his name (unknown) is unlikely to draw real attention. Again, a wonderful bit of family history and I'm sure that "sold for three hundred bucks on eBay" you'd be heartsick but on the open market as an instrument that's probably about it.

Pass it on to someone in the family who will love it for the ancestral connection and learn to play it- a short 48 is easy to handle and can play lovely music without multiple switches, a gazillion voices, and 110 cornets right behind...- , sell it to what you can hope will be a good home, or seek out a museum to donate it to where it will at least be cared for.

Truly- best wishes-

Henry

*"Verdi" the spectacularly famous composer of course is the namesake for the model, not the maker... There is unlikely to be any connection between the two beyond the appropriation of a famous name.

PS You might glance at the thread "Old Accordion" for more thoughts on this.

 
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Welcome Godsgirl! It's a beautiful accordion, however, I am not an expert at dating it, maybe someone else will chime in.

Since you live in NE Iowa, a closer club is the Tri State Accordion Club in La Crosse. There are knowledgeable people there, and big fun!

 
It’s hard to tell from the picture but it might have a palm hi-lo switch. Piano accordions in this form didn’t really catch on until the early 20th Century so the music shops estimate of early 1800s is pretty far fetched (1920s or 1930s is more realistic). I agree with Henry’s valuation.
 
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Not much of a contribution to your quest for information but it appears to be from the same model series surely the case is near identical. Given the grille styling I would think maybe a bit older? The grille style on yours is also stamped/pierced metal in the same shape though the pattern is different. The fact that Hohner made about 9,354,576 -give or take- models called Verdi (and these "Verdis" might well be from someone else though Hohner made a lot of first third of the twentieth century models with similar grilles-hardly exclusive to Hohner though. Hohner, however, wasn't given to not having "HOHNER" pretty prominently displayed on their products.) makes searching for it a bit challenging.
 
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Thank you so very much for the information you gave me. That knowledge means a lot to me. So with that I will try to find a value. My father played a Hohner and if I remember correctly he also played an
Excelsor. ( misspelled I'm sure) ? I was real little then but I can picture the black accordion with white lettering. I do need to find a case for this Verdi. Thank you again!
 
A very nice family heirloom. As an accordion it, assuming all the reeds sound and are vaguely in tune, is probably in the three to five hundred dollar range for someone who wants a compact lightweight accordion and is willing to accept a short (34 key) keyboard and a 48 bass LH section without the sevenths or diminished chords. The keyboard is a bit out of level and there's almost certainly work to be done on the valves but there are folks who relish vintage accordions and will work with that. You probably don't know off hand but I'd guess it has 2 or perhaps 3 voices in the treble and three or four in the bass. No switches on either. There are a couple of Accordion Museums out there ( one right up 35 in Superior) and it would surely be a welcome addition.

"Mr. Verdi"* - or the craftsman who made it- would undoubtedly be proud to know his accordion was still working a century later, but-though I could well be in error (again)- I'm afraid that notions of four figures for this accordion are probably unsupported. The maker may well have been a skilled craftsman, but his name (unknown) is unlikely to draw real attention. Again, a wonderful bit of family history and I'm sure that "sold for three hundred bucks on eBay" you'd be heartsick but on the open market as an instrument that's probably about it.

Pass it on to someone in the family who will love it for the ancestral connection and learn to play it- a short 48 is easy to handle and can play lovely music without multiple switches, a gazillion voices, and 110 cornets right behind...- , sell it to what you can hope will be a good home, or seek out a museum to donate it to where it will at least be cared for.

Truly- best wishes-

Henry

*"Verdi" the spectacularly famous composer of course is the namesake for the model, not the maker... There is unlikely to be any connection between the two beyond the appropriation of a famous name.

PS You might glance at the thread "Old Accordion" for more thoughts on this.

Henry, thank you for all of this information. You have given me so much more than I knew. To be honest it saddens me to think that someone other than Verdi himself made this beautiful instrument. Probably very naive of me I'm sure. Lol I have heard of the museums and have even considered donating to the Smithsonian to go along with the documentary my father was in. But I do believe it is more valuable to our family than any amount of money. I believe I will pass it down to my oldest son, who was Papa's right hand man. I feel that's where it needs to be. He remembers Papa playing it. I am very appreciative of you taking the time to give me this information.
Blessings...Monica Mallette Ritter ( aka) Godsgirl)
 
It’s hard to tell from the picture but it might have a palm hi-lo switch. Piano accordions in this form didn’t really catch on until the early 20th Century so the music shops estimate of early 1800s is pretty far fetched (1920s or 1930s is more realistic). I agree with Henry’s valuation.
Thank you Ben-jamin. Most of the info I have received is from vintage forums and such. I really had no idea where to look. You guys know more than I. I do regret not asking my father for information about it. All I knew was to keep the kids away from it!
Thank you!
 
Welcome Godsgirl! It's a beautiful accordion, however, I am not an expert at dating it, maybe someone else will chime in.

Since you live in NE Iowa, a closer club is the Tri State Accordion Club in La Crosse. There are knowledgeable people there, and big fun!

Thank you Tom! I appreciate the information. I will check them out!
 
But I do believe it is more valuable to our family than any amount of money. I believe I will pass it down to my oldest son, who was Papa's right hand man. I feel that's where it needs to be. He remembers Papa playing it.


I think your plan is the best one. I regularly threaten my children with who is getting what from my instrument ranch upon my demise- keeps 'em in line! But I also like to think that they will think of me every time they realize that ther's no space left in the closet... and just maybe a bit as some future grandkid (70's myself so I may not be present) bellows out Over the Waves on the tenor sax while a sibling hoists one of the accordions.

My unfortunate sense of humor aside, it belongs in the family.

Best wishes-
Henry
 
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