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Pan/Crucianelli Questions

ED Z

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While looking for information on the internet on Pan/Crucianelli accordions, I was fortunate to come across this forum which has been the most informative. I thank everyone in advance for any answers they have for my questions.

As a background, I grew up on Long Island in the 50's and 60's and took lessons from a good teacher who lived in East Meadow. It was through him that my parents purchased the new instrument for me in 1960. I only ever played for my own enjoyment, and after college, life got in the way and it remained in its case only to be removed several times in the last 50 years. At the urging of my grand daughter who wanted to learn to play, we took it out and my interest was re-kindled, both to play and also to learn more about the instrument itself. This is where the questions that I have been trying to answer come in.

First, from what I have been able to find out, I know it is Crucianelli built under the Pan patent, so it is probably an import. It was purchased from the "factory " in Long Island City. Its serial number is 49491 and it is a Model 80C. It also has the word "Rex" in chrome letters at the bottom of the bass side. I know that the factory in Italy was destroyed in a fire so there is no specific information available, but from what I have learned from this forum I think there is probably anecdotal information to be had.

Second, it has never had any work done to it as far as tuning etc. I would like to bring it back to its original condition in terms of sound so that my limited playing ability at least gives the instrument a little more credibility. But, I don't know what it was tuned for, how many reeds it has etc.. There are 8 paddle shifters, four going from Bassoon to Violin, and four going from Piccolo to Accordion, with a Master. There must have been some generic formula that was followed in the production of these instruments that could be followed for repair.

Finally, any direction in where to take or send it here in the Northeast for the work, and also the name of a comparable instrument to be used while it is worked on would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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ok first of all, REX is (now) your official nickname
and that is why it was put on your accordion

that's your story and you are sticking to it !

it is nice that you got it during the transition period, when they
had set up their arrangement with Crucianelli and it was rolling, but
the "factory" in New York had not yet been liquidated. One of our members
has childhood memories of the place. It was once the Wurlitzer accordion factory.

it is also possible just the showroom (near Troy) and offices were still
in New York but they still said "the factory" to everyone

it sounds like a full model. LMMH reed configuration usually has
the 9 total shifts (8 flappers, one master) and is probably a nice box
still worth good $$ and desirable.. there were several quality levels
and sizes of flapper models from Student to Pro

if you wish to wander down to DC some week,
Busso Music Inc
ernestdeffner.com
5712 General Washington Dr Ste H, Alexandria, VA 22312
(703) 941-9300
PanCordion is still in existence there, and i imagine Frank would
give you a loaner if you left yours for a complete tune-up

of course you may find a repair shop nearby that you prefer, but the option exists.

we can help you fix your granddaughter up with a smaller one to learn on
 
ok first of all, REX is (now) your official nickname
and that is why it was put on your accordion

that's your story and you are sticking to it !

it is nice that you got it during the transition period, when they
had set up their arrangement with Crucianelli and it was rolling, but
the "factory" in New York had not yet been liquidated. One of our members
has childhood memories of the place. It was once the Wurlitzer accordion factory.

it is also possible just the showroom (near Troy) and offices were still
in New York but they still said "the factory" to everyone

it sounds like a full model. LMMH reed configuration usually has
the 9 total shifts (8 flappers, one master) and is probably a nice box
still worth good $$ and desirable.. there were several quality levels
and sizes of flapper models from Student to Pro

if you wish to wander down to DC some week,
Busso Music Inc
ernestdeffner.com
5712 General Washington Dr Ste H, Alexandria, VA 22312
(703) 941-9300
PanCordion is still in existence there, and i imagine Frank would
give you a loaner if you left yours for a complete tune-up

of course you may find a repair shop nearby that you prefer, but the option exists.

we can help you fix your granddaughter up with a smaller one to learn on
Thank you for this information. I don't know at my age if "Rex" is a good nick name. I have a son in DC, so I will look into Busso Music the next time we get down there. I'm wondering if the model 80C would shed some light on the quality level of the instrument.
 
There is also Guenadiy Lazarov in New Jersey. You can find his contact info on his website accordiongallery.com.
 
I did a fast google, found this:
Hi - pls forgive if this is too commercial. A relation has asked
me to dispose of her father's accordion (he can no longer play),
which he claimed was purchased about 50 years ago for $3000.
(Is this even possible?) Various tags say
Post by Theo
Pancordion, Inc.
Mod. 80c
Crucianelli
#51xxx
Is it worth anything? Should I just put it on eBay for her, or is
there a better way to maximize value? Or if it's not worth much,
am I likely to be able to trade it to an acoustic music shop for
something she can use, like CDs or whatever?
Post by Theo
Thanks very much - I'm a bit out of my depth here.
-Theo
No one here can tell you values without seeing it and
investigating it's workability. It's quite possible it's value could be
$3000 if in mint condition as it sounds like the line top for that
amount in the 50s.

Take it to a bonafide accordion technician and pay his price to
appraise it for you. Only then will you be assured as to where you
stand with this instrument. He should be able to give you
different appraisal types that will determine your direction. Going
elsewhere--pawn shops, ebay and the like, will only keep you
confused and being taken advantage of.

Steve Navoyosky

Maybe Steve's suggestion 18 years ago is good again today? :)
 
Rufad - Thanks for that information, I'll look into the site.

As a response to Theo; 50 years ago would have put the purchase in the 1970's. I don't know what the price of a model 80c would have been then, but mine was bought in the early 1960's, serial # 49491 for between 4 and $500. I still have the original invoice which I could dig up for the exact cost. I haven't been able to get any specific information on the model 80c, but as Ventura posted in a reply, there were several quality levels available. If that pertains to the model 80c, I don't know. I've seen several Crucianelli's listed by Liberty Bellows with prices ranging from 800 to 1600. That might give you a little more perspective on approximate value before an actual appraisal.
 
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