Repetitions & trio
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Clearly A A B B A C C as the Fine is written before reaching the repetition sign.
But you should hear how it sounds. It is possible that A is really a piece that should always be repeated in order to sound right and then it will be A A B B A A C C despite what it says. (When something isn't immediately clear I would write D.S. al Fine senza rep. (or con rep.) but not every composer or arranger is as clear...)
But you should hear how it sounds. It is possible that A is really a piece that should always be repeated in order to sound right and then it will be A A B B A A C C despite what it says. (When something isn't immediately clear I would write D.S. al Fine senza rep. (or con rep.) but not every composer or arranger is as clear...)
StargazerTony
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Really, the only time strict adherence to the printed repeats, signs, actually any directional notations, and even the time values of the notes, is required, is when playing with others. When playing by yourself, play what sounds good to you
My vote is for AABBACC
But honestly if it were me and depending on how much time I wanted to take up playing it, I would do some combination that sounds pleasing to me and call it my arrangement.
Ben
But honestly if it were me and depending on how much time I wanted to take up playing it, I would do some combination that sounds pleasing to me and call it my arrangement.
Ben
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Geronimo
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Well, a Trio substructure is generally rendered as ABA form (with the reprise without repetitions). This one seems substructured, so I'd lean towards
AABBAACCABA
here, namely a reprise of the substructured first part without repetitions. I consider this slightly more likely than AABBACCABA . It would seem weird to end with a Trio without reprise: that's usually not what they are for. Though marches tend to be structured differently if that is what we are talking about (P.S.: just saw the 3/4 at the start, so we are more likely talking about, uh, menuets?).
AABBAACCABA
here, namely a reprise of the substructured first part without repetitions. I consider this slightly more likely than AABBACCABA . It would seem weird to end with a Trio without reprise: that's usually not what they are for. Though marches tend to be structured differently if that is what we are talking about (P.S.: just saw the 3/4 at the start, so we are more likely talking about, uh, menuets?).
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Geronimo post_id=54671 time=1516814605 user_id=2623 said:
The music genre of the tune is hambo
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAM%3D&search_query=hambo+trekkspil|dragspel
I havent found any record with this tune. Its called I solglantan by Allan Eriksson.
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JeffJetton
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Yeah, strange that there would be a segno at the very beginning of the piece. Usually they'd just leave it off and put a "da capo al[something]" in there.
Which is a sign (so to speak) that you're dealing with poorly-written and/or non-standard notation. In which case, all bets are off as far as what they intend for you to do.
That said, the form for these sorts of things might be something along the lines of AABBAACCAA. But if you don't think the A section can stand up to that much repetition, you can go with AABBACCA or even AABBACC. Then again, if it's a nice A section and a nice B section (some songs have really great B sections!) you could even go AABBAACCAABB.
It's folk music. Go nuts with it. :b
Which is a sign (so to speak) that you're dealing with poorly-written and/or non-standard notation. In which case, all bets are off as far as what they intend for you to do.
That said, the form for these sorts of things might be something along the lines of AABBAACCAA. But if you don't think the A section can stand up to that much repetition, you can go with AABBACCA or even AABBACC. Then again, if it's a nice A section and a nice B section (some songs have really great B sections!) you could even go AABBAACCAABB.
It's folk music. Go nuts with it. :b
JeffJetton post_id=54679 time=1516824924 user_id=1774 said:
Thats because the Segno has nothing to do with Da Capo (cq. the beginning) in this case. Traditionally youd play always Da Capo after Trio.
Play what you think sounds best. This type of music is for playing and I’m sure repeating certain parts (or not) will not detract from the overall performance if it is fit for purpose. I stopped agonising over these things years ago.
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jozz post_id=54733 time=1516997738 user_id=2600 said:
Im talking about the very first segno, over the first measure. Theres no reason for it to be there.
JeffJetton post_id=54835 time=1517243891 user_id=1774 said:
Ok, here is what I was taught. Granted, it was a long time ago...
If there are two Segnos, no matter where they are, it means: repeat everything in between, disregard inner repetition. This is the same for the Coda-sign. I dont know there is another way of writing the same sequence for this, but this is likely the shortest way.
So what Im reading is:
AABBABCCA
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Why A to fine when A ends at fine anyway? But anyway, that seems like a plausible version, and asking one who plays this genre was probably not the worst idea.Sarah post_id=54884 time=1517342792 user_id=137 said:I have the answer to my own question
I have asked a person who play this music genre and this tune.
The parts are played: AA-BB-A-CC-A to fine
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