Roland Fr-8x vs Korg Fisa

[cordionguy11]

I noticed the Korg was able to program sounds, like drums, to the bellows being pushed and pulled. I was curious if anyone knows if that was also possible on the roland Fr-8x?

 

[Ventura]

typically, any keyboard device controlled drum type sound
is routed through the velocity setting of the keyboard

routing it also through the bellows sensor would be
weird to say the least

any MIDI device that has access to the (generic, industry default)
General MIDI spec sound set has mapped Drum Kits available
as well as a few individual drum sounds that are across the entire 41 notes

how you "map" these to the treble or bass side depends
on the Korg/Roland control software, but any simple MIDI accordion
can actually, easily, do it

 

[JerryPH]

I noticed the Korg was able to program sounds, like drums, to the bellows being pushed and pulled. I was curious if anyone knows if that was also possible on the roland Fr-8x?

I am not sure it is programmed to respond to bellows pressure on the Korg, but no it is not possible on the 8X, but as Ventura mentioned, it would not be as versatile as having it velocity sensitive. This is easy and something that I use a lot, it is like having separate control of the drums, bass, right hand percussive instruments and accordion all separately.

One thing that the 8X can do that the Korg cannot… map drum sounds to the right hand. Now it’s not something that I use a lot but I do use it in a couple songs, it’s fun.

 

[cordionguy11]

typically, any keyboard device controlled drum type sound
is routed through the velocity setting of the keyboard

routing it also through the bellows sensor would be
weird to say the least

any MIDI device that has access to the (generic, industry default)
General MIDI spec sound set has mapped Drum Kits available
as well as a few individual drum sounds that are across the entire 41 notes

how you "map" these to the treble or bass side depends
on the Korg/Roland control software, but any simple MIDI accordion
can actually, easily, do it

So by default on the Rx8 I could program a drum roll sound to the velocity of the push and pull of the bellows? Here is example of what I mean. Timestamp:

I am not sure it is programmed to respond to bellows pressure on the Korg, but no it is not possible on the 8X, but as Ventura mentioned, it would not be as versatile as having it velocity sensitive. This is easy and something that I use a lot, it is like having separate control of the drums, bass, right hand percussive instruments and accordion all separately.

One thing that the 8X can do that the Korg cannot… map drum sounds to the right hand. Now it’s not something that I use a lot but I do use it in a couple songs, it’s fun.

Im sorry, I am very new to all of this. Disregard the velocity. Can I program a sound to the push and pull of the bellows on the 8x, like it is shown for the fisa in the video.

 

[JerryPH]

For some, yes, this is the default behaviour on any sound on the bass except drums. I don’t recall ever hearing those same sounds/effects as the FISA, though so you might not be able to do the exact same thing. One can definitely program different sounds on the left hand of an FR-8x.

 

[Ventura]

the drum attack is still triggered by the key,
that is to say the keypress sets the note value to on,
it's pre-programmed ADSR has been triggered

you just don't realize it because the bellows are
stopped when he hits the keys, so really
he is just using the bellows to fade the volume
in and out on that particular (happens to be a drum) "sound"

so obviously he has found a way to route controller 7/11
data to a percussive sound on the korg for control.. this may be
a bit more versatile than the Roland, as some sounds are restricted
by the programming to only allow velocity, some only pressure,
while some are permitted both

when the primary sound on the keyboard is a velocity only
patch, like violin pluck, piano, etc. then layering ANY sound
that is totally pressure dependent (like reeds) is a fun trick, as yes,
simply by vectoring your force on the keys relative to your
squeeze, you allow the two sounds to act independently
and dance together in an infinitely variable manner