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The originator of the steel accordion reed

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All the accordion manufacturers of the past were handmade artists in one of three special parts of the accordion. They were either bass mechanism specialists, treble keyboard makers, or reed-makers. Bellows-makers were individuals on their own as that phase was not as time consuming and demanding in a technology sense. They normally had work contracts with several accordion manufacturers.

All the brands usually started manufacturing accordions as three owners, each providing his special service. Everything was handmade. Luigi Giulietti was the reed-maker for Italo American for example. Eventually he left the corporation firm and went to the west coast and worked for Galizi........as a reed-maker, of course. He then went to NYC and started his own business. Yes, he continued to make handmade reeds (that's why you usually find all old accordions having handmade reeds......there wasn't ever a mass produced handmade accordion reed back then....…

Who worked for Luigi Giulietti making the treble and bass sections? ....why none other than the Pancotti brothers from Italy....who,…...like Luigi Giulietti, who worked for the first accordion manufacturer in the world.....Paulo Soprani.
Luigi Giulietti learned his skill from his mother....a Petromilli...and her husband who was a metallurgist.

And so this is where the accordion steel reed all started…..with an Italian metallurgist husband and brass accordion reed-maker wife, combining their expertise to invent a steel accordion reed capable of producing stronger vibrations with more harmonics, and a more spontaneous response from air flow. They combined their knowledge in a series of attempts to change history. She commenced to train her son Luigi Giulietti to make handmade reeds and he worked for Paulo Soprani as reeed-maker of steel reeds.

But Luigi Giulietti wanted more money to make those steel handmade accordion reeds....and asked for a raise.
Soprani told him....”you were poor when you were born and you'll always remain poor.” So Luigi Giulietti quit, left Italy and his wife and child, and sought to make his fortune in the USA.

BTW, those Pancotti Brothers who worked for him used to steal his accordion parts---take them home and finish building the accordions under the Giulietti brand name......so they got fired after a buyer came to Luigi Giulietti with an accordion and complained about the product and pointed to the Pancotti brothers as being the salesmen. Luigi Giulietti's son….JULIO Giulietti worked there as a reed-maker. Back then reed-makers were also tuners of those reeds that they made.

Then in 1924, George Bundy (of Selmer Corp) wanted to get into the accordion business and he hired the Pancotti Brothers....who in turn incorporated with Bugari...a handmade reed-maker from Italy.......and Bundy suggested the name of that firm to be "Excelsior" which was the New York state motto...meaning 'highest'. Well-known accordionists were drawn to this accordion as well as the new and improved modern design of their accordions.....like the piccolo reeds.......the rocker action....and more bellow pleats than just 15 pleats, and the rounded corners of the bellows. The wood quality was higher. Many provino tuners were employed to keep production up. And this begins to tell you that not one Bugari person was involved anymore than one keyboard maker or one bass machine maker.

In fact it becomes interesting to know that while accordionist Charles Magnante was associated with the Excelsior firm from the very beginning…….so were his brothers….who in fact, worked there. Angelo, the youngest was the foreman, Joe the pugilist who built bass machines, and John worked there daily. John was also an accordion teacher at home.

So for those interested in Excelsior and their amano reeds, I hope this hasn’t rattled you to find all this transpiring in NYC with workers you least expected. The Pancotti brothers became officers of Excelsior never touching anything but a pen.

Handmade reeds basically ceased being made after Dick Contino caused excitement about the accordion on the Horace Heidt Amateur radio shows. This had everyone wanting to study the accordion and buy them.....all the kids wanted to be like Contino. This caused mass production to transpire and basically cheapen the quality of the instrument. Accordion reeds slowly quit being made by the handmade process..as it takes 22 days to make one complete set of reeds for one accordion. I know that to be true, because I was trained by JULIO Giulietti on how to make handmade reeds.

Players who are taken by the marketing terminology of selling *handmade reeds* to them are like people at a circus listening to P.T.Barnum. They really don’t exist anymore and haven’t for many years.
Let's back up. Excelsior accordions in the 1930s all had handmade reeds. So did their student line accordions...Accordiana.......because that's all that was being made at that time. However......consider the fact that all handmade reed makers were not of the same quality journeyman. So the value of a handmade reed is not only raw materials but the craftsmanship of that reed-maker making that set. The reed is only as good as the maker and tuner.

Well.....I spoke many words and drained you...so I'll stop and let you rest. I'm sure you got the point.
I’ll offer more to you another day….like are there always Excelsior reeds in an Excelsior?
 
SNAav teased: like are there always Excelsior reeds in an Excelsior?

all i know is every Excelsior i have ever played sounded like an Excelsior

maybe it is Magic..

maybe you know how the magic was done !

i just have this lifelong impression of consistency and value that
convinced me Excelsior deserved their legendary reputation

and regarding hand made reeds.. when i first visited the Factory and CastleFi
of course i asked for hand made Reeds not knowing any better, and Bejiamino
patiently explained to me what was real and what was fiction, then showed
me the reed process on the factory floor..

then he allowed me to buy nd take home that 960 from the Showroom
that i refused to take off my shoulders
(or stop playing)
and i am still playing it to this day
and the MIDI electronics in it still work flawlessly too

yeah i got my moneys worth out of that accordion !
 
’ll offer more to you another day….like are there always Excelsior reeds in an Excelsior?
And, maybe, how different makes (e.g., Hohner, Giulietti Dallapé) come to have a distinctively characteristic sound 🤫
Thanks for sharing your insights with us!❤️
I love this kind of reminiscing 🙂.
 
SNAav teased: like are there always Excelsior reeds in an Excelsior?

all i know is every Excelsior i have ever played sounded like an Excelsior

maybe it is Magic..

maybe you know how the magic was done !

i just have this lifelong impression of consistency and value that
convinced me Excelsior deserved their legendary reputation

and regarding hand made reeds.. when i first visited the Factory and CastleFi
of course i asked for hand made Reeds not knowing any better, and Bejiamino
patiently explained to me what was real and what was fiction, then showed
me the reed process on the factory floor..

then he allowed me to buy nd take home that 960 from the Showroom
that i refused to take off my shoulders
(or stop playing)
and i am still playing it to this day
and the MIDI electronics in it still work flawlessly too

yeah i got my moneys worth out of that accordion !
You're a good man, Ventura. Stay that way. Just never let your memories be greater than your dreams.
 
Steve, this ancient 'newbie' thanks you for your input here - for me encountering such first hand knowledge and associated history is a blessing.

I once met a pianist/arranger who worked with Shirley Bassey who likewise had a plethora of tales to tell and knowledge to impart.

Again, thank you.
 
And, maybe, how different makes (e.g., Hohner, Giulietti Dallapé) come to have a distinctively characteristic sound 🤫
Thanks for sharing your insights with us!❤️
I love this kind of reminiscing 🙂.
Actually, the reeds have only minor (but still significant) influence on how an accordion sounds. Back when Excelsior made (virtually all the parts of) the Hohner Morino (N and S series) while also making seemingly almost identical Excelsior accordions they all had Bugari reeds yet they had a quite distinctive sound. And in the period I got to see several Bugari Artist Cassotto 285 accordions on the inside, all identical but all from different years, spread over more than a decade, they had reeds from at least three different manufacturers installed, yet to my ears they all sounded just the same. Nowadays, with stiff competition, accordion manufacturers often look for the cheapest reed maker (for a certain type of reed) and never specify what make is inside an accordion. (Only with quite high-end models can you request that a specific type of reed from a specific manufacturer is installed.)
 
in the area of flexible metal, i have never encountered a watch spring or
a turntable spring or a leaf spring or any kind of spring made of Brass,
so i am thinking steel simply must be stronger more reliable more
amenable to different forms and usage like the long legged springs
under the keys of our accordions

maybe it was easier for old time metallurgists to use brass as it has
been around longer, and for an extreme environment may still have
need to be used on occasion, but Steel is the better option today.
 
in the area of flexible metal, i have never encountered a watch spring or
a turntable spring or a leaf spring or any kind of spring made of Brass,
so i am thinking steel simply must be stronger more reliable more
amenable to different forms and usage like the long legged springs
under the keys of our accordions

maybe it was easier for old time metallurgists to use brass as it has
been around longer, and for an extreme environment may still have
need to be used on occasion, but Steel is the better option today.
You win the cigar prize on this one, Ventura. When it was found by the Giulietti's that steel would be the choice material over the brass that was in use....perhaps from harmonica days......all went well until World War 2 when steel was reserved for the militarys. Accordion reed-making continued however as solved by Luigi Giuletti over here in his accordion factory......and Julio, his son who was one of the reed=makers....confirmed this.......that they sought clock springs everywhere, bought them, and used those ribbons to make reeds.
 
in the area of flexible metal, i have never encountered a watch spring or
a turntable spring or a leaf spring or any kind of spring made of Brass,
so i am thinking steel simply must be stronger more reliable more
amenable to different forms and usage...
Steel in various tempers, stainless steel, brass, bronze, phosphor bronze ... all are widely used in many applications. Surely widely found in brass instrument valve springs and assorted woodwind leaf springs.

Steel is easy to manufacture and control and pretty durable so it does have a huge share of mass market applications- but by no means controls the specific and demanding need markets.

For accordion reed toungues the application is just not that demanding, and the costs for adaptation would probably yield paltry if any improvements for a substantial increased effort. And "tradition" is a powerful factor in instrument manufacture.
 
Iron alloys are at a serious disadvantage in brass instruments because they're so reactive with water. Pistons and rotors can use alloys with enough nickel to compensate, but indeed the springs are more often of copper alloys. As long as all moisture can be kept out of the accordion, no problem there - who ever saw a rusty accordion reed? (ha ha.)
 
Steel in various tempers, stainless steel, brass, bronze, phosphor bronze ... all are widely used in many applications. Surely widely found in brass instrument valve springs and assorted woodwind leaf springs.

Steel is easy to manufacture and control and pretty durable so it does have a huge share of mass market applications- but by no means controls the specific and demanding need markets.

For accordion reed toungues the application is just not that demanding, and the costs for adaptation would probably yield paltry if any improvements for a substantial increased effort. And "tradition" is a powerful factor in instrument manufacture.
I don't really believe that. Sorry.
 
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