Ukrainian Bayan & Accordion Day - Kyiv 2016

[Jim the box]

The small chap in this clip must weigh less than his accordion mustnt he?


There is a lot of tallent in Russia, check out the other clips.

 

[Reedwarbler]

That was really enjoyable.
Thanks for posting link

 

[JerryPH]

That was great! The little kid was very talented for his age.
Also, I am liking very much the sound of those Bayans more and more, they do sound beautiful.

 

[acordiansam]

I was about his age when I got my 1st electravox. What a beast it was. I rember just being able to get my chin on top. Luckie no chin switches to reach.

The boy is great at any age. I know people who have played for much longer than he has been alive and would love to play as well.

His face expression when he starts a pice is great. The feeling he puts into it is way beyond his years. The way he works the 2 lines through each other to become one. As I said way beyond his years!

 

[debra]

Great to see the kid with the gigantic bayan.
Of course it's all talent in the Ukraine and not in Russia! (They are not the very best of friends these days.)
Amazing control at such young age. We don't see that around here.

 

[Jim the box]

....Of course its all talent in the Ukraine and not in Russia! (They are not the very best of friends these days.)....

I stand corrected sir. :hb

 

[EMan]

The young guy is excellent and has good control over his instrument despite the contrast in size between him and his accordion. I know his pain, as I started when I was six with a full size 120 bass ( my Dad's accordion). Initially I tried putting it on the floor and push and pull instead of trying to lift it, but that didn't work at all, so my Dad would help put it on me and I would sit.

For those who know more than I, is the bass on his accordion what they call the "free bass" with single notes only ? It seems so on his first piece.

Thanks for sharing this video. He's is a very talented youngster.

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[Deleted member 48]

The kid is a great talent, but the accordion does not fit his size and age.
However he will soon be large enough to master the box.
Kids of this size and age are far better off with a 60/80 bass accordion. Maybe half of the weight and compacter.
But I think the accordion teacher wants to push the pupil to take on the grand repertoire of the box at a young age. Then the long runs can be over 3 or 4 octaves, and a 120 bass will have all the notes.

 

[JerryPH]

For those who know more than I, is the bass on his accordion what they call the free bass with single notes only ? It seems so on his first piece.

It s a variation of the Free Bass. First it is a converter system, meaning that they need to hit a bass register to convert the Stradella system into individual notes, but what truly distincts the Bayan from other Free Bass systems is how the notes are placed. In traditional converter systems, the low bass notes are at the top (like the right hand) and the high notes are lower, when the accordion is worn in the traditional way.

A Bayans main trait (from the near insignificant knowledge that I know of them), is:
Right hand has low notes at the top, moving higher as one moves the hand lower and the left hand has a traditional Stradella system until a specific bass register is hit but unlike any other Free Bass system, the high notes are at the top of the accordion and as one moves down, the notes go lower (deeper), a counter directional method from the right hand and unique to the Bayan.

I truly love the sound of this accordion and was I younger, it would be my instrument of choice... that or a Gola.

However he will soon be large enough to master the box.

I think hes already done that (mastered the accordion)... imagine what this kid will be like in 6-7 years once he grows into it a bit?

 

[Deleted member 48]

The bayan repertoire sheet music books used at music schools in Ukraine and Russia very often have music pieces with mixed bass lines.
I mean the accordionist has to switch from Stradella bass to free bass very often in the same music piece or movement. In both slow or fast movements this can occur. Some bars played with Stradella basses, and a few bars later the music is all free bass.
Their accordionists were trained in fast switching between SB and FB lines. Then a convertor accordion is the box you need.

I have some 20 bayan sheet music books, and some for conservatory repertoire. Some bass lines I dare not to look at more more than a few seconds, so difficult ... And those tempi ...
"Bon courage" to the bravest to take on these accordion/bayan pieces.

 

[JerryPH]

Thats where having 3 separate rows of buttons dedicated to the free bass range come in handy... no registers to press, just move the hand to the top 3 rows and play.

http://syner-g.asuscomm.com/mymusic/files/glove1.jpg>

In my conservatory days, this was a big advantage when playing pieces where they switched back and forth a lot... but lets be honest, there werent many songs that did this in the music I had to play in the day, still its fun and I sometimes improvise the use of the free bass in songs that dont use it officially now and then just for fun. I hope to return to music in a few months to continue that journey.

 

[Deleted member 48]

You're right, it comes in handy to have 3 separate rows of free basses above your Stradella basses and chords.
And you could form some really weird chord chombinations by pressing both Stradella chords + SB + free bass buttons.

On the convertor accordions, they installed chin registers to solve this.

 

[JerryPH]

Never saw chin switches on the left hand side, that would be amazing!

 

[Deleted member 48]

Silly me, sorry. On a traditional chin registers accordion, you can indeed only use the chin switches for changing sound characters in the right hand melody of the accordion.

However even right side chin switches for influencing the bass registers are in the process of development, albeit on paper.
Its been patented
This one however looks to be for a digital accordion. Technically its possible to use the right side chin registers for changing the left side bass registers.

http://www.google.com/patents/DE4342382A1?cl=en

And this French 2015 patent shows also ongoing research into new register switch mechanics with more possible combinations
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publ...11A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20150819&DB=&locale=
Original document: EP2908311 (A1) ― 2015-08-19

It is said there is also an accordion patent, with the accordion having all the reed block in the right side, both melody and bass reedblocks. Its recent, and I once read online it is in prototype production. But how far this info is credible, I dont know.

 

[JerryPH]

For some reason, just the fact that there are recent patents out there and the news of continued development in the accordion world just puts a smile on my face.