what kind is excelsior 1304 ??

[zugij]

i am looking to buy one ,my first one to be better
and i look a looooad of yt videos and read forum and reviews and this that
so i look at some used accordion's in germany (online only )
i look some of borsini viena 724 & 723# 342 ,then excelsior 1304 ,cantonelli 344lux,zero sette b11 ,and some pigini ,scandalli,victoria 413,and manny others all in some strange zone of 2500-3500€
btw which will you buy for that kind € ?
i need her for learning so i look on somewhat lighter one 8-9kg

well only i figured out that i love sound of giullieti super and she is expensiveeeeee
rest sound normal i guess i get some vibe when i watch video of that 1304 and one borsini
probably players are females so that buzz me a bit

well i must ask to you guys that have experience which one of these are better
made and better sound ?
cause my ears hate me these days
i guess i rape them with loooad of these videos
and sounds ,right now high and med sound to me like female scream
uf
i know this is just another which one to buy
but when i read i read a loot and one say this other that other no other yes ..
and i dont have a clue ,only i know i want italian with good sound if i can in piccolo if cant well
and if she have a-mano reeds even better
if not no one will hear difference
and i know i read that i need to feel her to be right ,,but what i know
i never hold one on me or play one , plus
she will sound next 2 years same ,like old unoiled machine or like someone step on cat
please help me i need new toy ,,i mean new hobby
thanks

 

[JIM D.]

A clean used Titano Grand (Victoria) should be in your price range.

 

[zugij]

A clean used Titano Grand (Victoria) should be in your price range.

thanks for advice ,but i cant find any used on this side of pond
just in usa or canada

 

[Chickers]

zugij
I enjoy your descriptions, and your reference to a accordion as your "lady"; "she"; that's neat.
I am a fairly new accordion player, and I really like my Excelsiola 612M , mostly for it's play-ability, and it's reasonable sound (it's dry tuned). Made in Italy, back in the 1960's and it is very reliable, well made and has a great feel and balance. My Excelsiola is a "piano accordion" so I don't know if you're looking for a CBA, or PA---that makes a big difference. Excelsior, Excelsiola, Accordiana, in my opinion are all great piano accordions and are usually available at reasonable prices. (here in the U.S.A.)
There are a lot of very experienced, and accomplished accordionists on this forum, so I'm sure they can be much more helpful than I, in guiding you in good directions.
Good luck in your search
CHICKERS

 

[zugij]

piano keys and in piccolo or non-musette reeds , i like if it have cassoto but that will just cost more
i read i cant play lot of things with musette lmmm way

 

[Scuromondo]

I owned a gently used Excelsior 1296 for several years. It was a very nice instrument for the price I paid. I think the 1296 is effectively the LMM version of the LMMH 1304 you are looking at. They are both “modern” Excelsiors, so the “Accordiana,” “Excelsiola” monikers do not apply.

My 1296 had a great keyboard. It was well-balanced, lightweight, and fitted with very good Cagnoni dural reeds. Overall its tone was excellent for the price (keep in mind that these accordions are at the lowest end of Excelsior’s product line). However, I must say that if you want very deep bass sound, this accordion is not a great choice; it has a lovely, but lighter tone.

At the time I bought it, I was comparing it against a used Hohner Amica for the same price. The Excelsior was hands-down the better instrument. Anyway, you can see and hear my white Excelsior 1296 now for sale on the Liberty Bellows website:

4821 - White Pearl Excelsior 1296 Piano Accordion LMM 37 96

Type: Piano Accordion Reeds: 3/4 LMM Treble: 37 Keys, 17.25(44cm) Key to Key, 7 Registers Bass: 96 Bass Buttons, 2 Registers Weight: 21.5lbs / 9.8kg Features: Gently used with microphones

www.libertybellows.com

 

[zugij]

yea i just read it
so ac and up are pro ones, where 911 and 940 is medium ones ,and pro start with 960 , when i look at a-mano reeds
ok will look at these on my side of pond or to pick some other ,i dont know any more what i like what not ,my head hurts ..
btw thanks

 

[zugij]

i more and more like fr-4x i can plug my self inside and dont bother others with my squealing
plus i will have a ton of accordions inside ,so if i like dallapa i put that in or this and that
like my own harem of girls

 

[zugij]

well thanks for all answers but after watching what roland accordions can do load videos on that page

Roland accordion in Europe

I watch accordion videos every day. Most of the musicians are European because I am interested in classical repertoire. But I have never seen a European play a Roland. Is it not appropriate for classical music or did it just not take over there?

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i will deff go that way
just tinny one question i see that most of these classical players play on button rolands
i like more piano ones ,so before i flush $ i got to ask
do button ones give easy play vs piano or give more keys
or i can play same peace like Beethoven 5th on piano version like they do on button
thanks

 

[Ben-jammin]

i see that most of these classical players play on button rolands
i like more piano ones ,so before i flush $ i got to ask
do button ones give easy play vs piano or give more keys
or i can play same peace like Beethoven 5th on piano version like they do on button
thanks

The question of chromatic button vs piano comes up in different forms fairly frequently. I pasted a link to one such thread. All things being equal I understand it’s generally acknowledged that buttons are superior to the PA giving you more notes for given size and allowing you to play notes further apart with same hand stretch.

Changing Horses in Mid Stream

Hi all, I play small (ish) box accordions, namely CBA c system. It was a natural progression (for me) as I came from playing diatonic accordions and concertinas. I note with interest a few members that have changed from PA to CBA but has anybody gone the other way, and if so why? Are there...

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[zugij]

ok button one will be my next
big thanks