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I have decided to post a lengthy email on accordion reed design discussion between two accordion journeymen technicians/reed-makers, Rashid Karimov (Russia) and Steve Navoyosky (America) held about 20 years ago.
Journeyman technician Kimric Smythe in California inquired about certain aspects of accordion design and I decided to fulfill “his” request in this manner. So, Kimric, this is for you!
Instead of sending him this information alone, it is here for all to read...but not for those who are information gatherers, who will take this information and disclose it here or other places as if they are the knowledgeable one. I only request that Rashid and I be given credit for it’s contents.
Rashid emails>>>>>>
Serious literature on subject: Germans did some formal studies,
Russians are not so distant second. USSR had a whole Research Institute
dedicate to study of music instruments. For example, they did studies
on precise size of resonators as early as 1934 - which was then re-used
by all of the (state-owned) factories. Also, optimal reed size were
calculated and published about same time.
Unfortunately there's not a whole lot on the subject on the Internet
- About optimal reed shape. Ideally it'd be rectangular, with uniform
thickness profiles. In reality, profiles are rather complex and shapes
for higher-reeds tend to be trapezoidal, to reduce reed stiffness.
Italian reeds are all trapesoidal ('cept bases), Russian vary: some
masters have them all absolutely rectangular (Tula - Mir, Yasnaya
Polyana instruments), some do higher reeds more trapesoidal (Jupiter,
AKKO) (still much less so than Italians)
- Reed profile (thickness): too stiff is bad (low sound production,
won't play @ piano, sound is too dull) and too soft is bad as well
(will tend to shut off @ forte & fortissimo, tone will bend too much
(get lower @ progressively higher volumes). That's all there's to it,
the right profile is somewhere in between
.
Profile must be such that reeed doesn't bend @ the root, instead may be
1/8th of the reed's length away from it. The "bending point" will get
closer to the tip as pitch increases. Highest pitch reeds will bend
5/8th of length toward the tip.
Highest notes will be as thin as 0.002 of inch @ the tip. Thickness for
higher notes will be fairly uniform from bend point to the tip.
For lower notes it won't be the case - one can safely have tip thicker
than @ bend point, to have lower tone. And of course, for lowest notes
weight is soldered @ the tip. Brass is used the most, being some of
heavier metals.
Reed Width to Lenght ratio is typically 8:1 to 10:1
- What is ABSOLUTELY imporant is the space/gap beetween the reed and
the cut in the reed plate. Best hand-made reeds will have gap as small
as 0.02 of mm. Smaller gap means lesser effort to play, MUCH reacher
tone. For example, when gap goes from .03mm to .05, HALF of harmonics
will disappear ! Result: flatter and duller sound, will take more air
and overall effort to play.
Problem with best instruments: due to extremely close tolerances, some
reeds will jam/buzz @ too low/too high temperatures.
- Reed material is always blue-tempered spring steel (RC 48-52).
Phosphorous bronze is used in harmonicas, as it is rust resistant.
Older Russian instruments will have brownish-hue steel (came from
StPeterburgh steel factory, no longer available) - but it is same
temper as regular blue spring steel.
- Reed plates: Russians use aircraft-grade alluminum (150 Brinnell, US
equivalent: 7072 alloy). Italians use some weird alloy (scratch a reed
plate and you will see brassy collor emerge for higher reeds, for lower
ones it seem to be some sort of 6xxx aluminum, in T4 or thereabout).
- Reed plate cuts are tapered so that the opening get wider toward the
exit side of the plate. Angle: 4-5 degrees. It makes reed more
responsive.
- Reed plate thickness: has to be about the same as max amplitude of
respective reed's travel. Thicker/thinner will reduce volume somewhat,
not a whole lot.
- Reed blocks: Sitka spruce or white pine (two of most resonant woods,
reasonably widespread and easy to work with) is used for the middle
piece. Separators: spruce, oak or mapple. Bottom part: hardwood,
maple/oak/mahogany. Top of the reed block is varnished for the same
reason exterior of say violin is: to make it resistant to dirt/sweat.
Inside is not as it will affect resonant qualities of wood (again, just
as violins and other string instruments).
- Reed leathers are very important. Need to be thin enough, fluffy
toward the reed plate, yet responsive and springy. Calfskin and
lambskin are used. Larger leathers will have boosters: Russians use
strips cut out of 35mm photo film, Italians use thin strips cut out of
stainless shim stock (0.0015")
- There's pronounced difference in sound of PA and large pro CBAs (62
notes). Reason: CBAs are stuffed to where almost no space for sound to
bounce around is left inside. PA's have more space inside (RH has
almost 30% less space occupied).
- More on reeds: Italians grind and stamp them out using machines.
Russians, in pro instruments, do everything by hand. Pros and cons to
both methods, but pro Russian bayans have no equals.
Steve replies>>
Rashid: I've noted all your past and present comments with
interest. Much of what you say is true and I'm happy that Russia
has always been to front-runner in making reeds.
Ever since I was taught by the Italians in the making of 'true'
handmade reeds, I have sought the secrets in design and
specifications of other nations and the reasons for them. Since
the only means I know is making reeds by hand, and believe this
to be the very best, I must agree that Russia is foremost in reed
making as they place quality over quantity and 'hand' over
machinery.
The 'optimal' was critical for many reasons. The reed swing, and
block chamber size, and the overall housing became careful
considerations. I saw where you mentioned the 16th and last
Vukovitch bayan owned by Veikko. I examined that instrument
when he and I were together about ten or twelve years ago. A
very very fine instrument. Veikko had a case made for the left
hand only and carries that with him everywhere. It is ingenius.
Indeed those Russian made reeds have a sparking color that is not by
chance but by choice. The lateral sides contribute greatly to this
quality in addition to the optimal stiffness of the steel. While this
supplies that quality, the negative side is that this lateral design
allows for easy breakage of the reed tongue as the support is
missing. German accordions can be found to employ this same
look, but there's reflect an even sectional thickness and which
defeats the handsome quality of the Russian reed. It is because
of the breakage that caused the Italians to place the trapezoid
design to use and which developed a more 'flutey' sound.
In my many years of working and studying reeds, I have also
experimented with various approaches to give that Russian
quality while at the same time, allow the reed to have strength.
Morbidoni was yet another who made reeds with a pyramid
center the length of the reed tongue. This by all means was a
terrific idea and it did work. However, this lasted only with
Morbidoni as it took much patience and time to work this vital
cross-section equivalent to all reed sizes. I must say that a
reedmaker must make all his reed sets uniform in quality and
sound.
I have found that it is best for the artists to have the highest
quality reeds, for the lesser player cannot comprehend their value
and the careful manner in which to perform with them. This is
one reason why there were always three stages of qualities in
accordion: Student line, semi-professional line, and
professional. Today however, it appears that even the beginner
wants the very best and for no good reason. It would be like
having a Porche' right after getting your driving license
application. It makes no sense to do these things.
Reed design and the specifications that go with it, are certainly
concerns, but only for the technician. The player should be
interested in his playing and whether the accordion performs to
his desire. Eventually, he will progress upward in quality as he
progresses upward in his abilities and agility.
I'm not sure I agree with your observation that the compactness
of chromatic accordions render a lesser 'boom' than piano
keyboard accordions.....because of the internal cavity. I might go
along with the amount of reeds in comparison to housing size.
or the reduction of sound board but I see the reed chamber and
the grille chamber as affecting parties. All this goes without
going into the woods, etc. which also have a direct bearing to
timbre. Again, I enjoyed your discussions.
Steve Navoyosky
(Go to #2)
Journeyman technician Kimric Smythe in California inquired about certain aspects of accordion design and I decided to fulfill “his” request in this manner. So, Kimric, this is for you!
Instead of sending him this information alone, it is here for all to read...but not for those who are information gatherers, who will take this information and disclose it here or other places as if they are the knowledgeable one. I only request that Rashid and I be given credit for it’s contents.
Rashid emails>>>>>>
Serious literature on subject: Germans did some formal studies,
Russians are not so distant second. USSR had a whole Research Institute
dedicate to study of music instruments. For example, they did studies
on precise size of resonators as early as 1934 - which was then re-used
by all of the (state-owned) factories. Also, optimal reed size were
calculated and published about same time.
Unfortunately there's not a whole lot on the subject on the Internet
- About optimal reed shape. Ideally it'd be rectangular, with uniform
thickness profiles. In reality, profiles are rather complex and shapes
for higher-reeds tend to be trapezoidal, to reduce reed stiffness.
Italian reeds are all trapesoidal ('cept bases), Russian vary: some
masters have them all absolutely rectangular (Tula - Mir, Yasnaya
Polyana instruments), some do higher reeds more trapesoidal (Jupiter,
AKKO) (still much less so than Italians)
- Reed profile (thickness): too stiff is bad (low sound production,
won't play @ piano, sound is too dull) and too soft is bad as well
(will tend to shut off @ forte & fortissimo, tone will bend too much
(get lower @ progressively higher volumes). That's all there's to it,
the right profile is somewhere in between

Profile must be such that reeed doesn't bend @ the root, instead may be
1/8th of the reed's length away from it. The "bending point" will get
closer to the tip as pitch increases. Highest pitch reeds will bend
5/8th of length toward the tip.
Highest notes will be as thin as 0.002 of inch @ the tip. Thickness for
higher notes will be fairly uniform from bend point to the tip.
For lower notes it won't be the case - one can safely have tip thicker
than @ bend point, to have lower tone. And of course, for lowest notes
weight is soldered @ the tip. Brass is used the most, being some of
heavier metals.
Reed Width to Lenght ratio is typically 8:1 to 10:1
- What is ABSOLUTELY imporant is the space/gap beetween the reed and
the cut in the reed plate. Best hand-made reeds will have gap as small
as 0.02 of mm. Smaller gap means lesser effort to play, MUCH reacher
tone. For example, when gap goes from .03mm to .05, HALF of harmonics
will disappear ! Result: flatter and duller sound, will take more air
and overall effort to play.
Problem with best instruments: due to extremely close tolerances, some
reeds will jam/buzz @ too low/too high temperatures.
- Reed material is always blue-tempered spring steel (RC 48-52).
Phosphorous bronze is used in harmonicas, as it is rust resistant.
Older Russian instruments will have brownish-hue steel (came from
StPeterburgh steel factory, no longer available) - but it is same
temper as regular blue spring steel.
- Reed plates: Russians use aircraft-grade alluminum (150 Brinnell, US
equivalent: 7072 alloy). Italians use some weird alloy (scratch a reed
plate and you will see brassy collor emerge for higher reeds, for lower
ones it seem to be some sort of 6xxx aluminum, in T4 or thereabout).
- Reed plate cuts are tapered so that the opening get wider toward the
exit side of the plate. Angle: 4-5 degrees. It makes reed more
responsive.
- Reed plate thickness: has to be about the same as max amplitude of
respective reed's travel. Thicker/thinner will reduce volume somewhat,
not a whole lot.
- Reed blocks: Sitka spruce or white pine (two of most resonant woods,
reasonably widespread and easy to work with) is used for the middle
piece. Separators: spruce, oak or mapple. Bottom part: hardwood,
maple/oak/mahogany. Top of the reed block is varnished for the same
reason exterior of say violin is: to make it resistant to dirt/sweat.
Inside is not as it will affect resonant qualities of wood (again, just
as violins and other string instruments).
- Reed leathers are very important. Need to be thin enough, fluffy

toward the reed plate, yet responsive and springy. Calfskin and
lambskin are used. Larger leathers will have boosters: Russians use
strips cut out of 35mm photo film, Italians use thin strips cut out of
stainless shim stock (0.0015")
- There's pronounced difference in sound of PA and large pro CBAs (62
notes). Reason: CBAs are stuffed to where almost no space for sound to
bounce around is left inside. PA's have more space inside (RH has
almost 30% less space occupied).
- More on reeds: Italians grind and stamp them out using machines.
Russians, in pro instruments, do everything by hand. Pros and cons to
both methods, but pro Russian bayans have no equals.
Steve replies>>
Rashid: I've noted all your past and present comments with
interest. Much of what you say is true and I'm happy that Russia
has always been to front-runner in making reeds.
Ever since I was taught by the Italians in the making of 'true'
handmade reeds, I have sought the secrets in design and
specifications of other nations and the reasons for them. Since
the only means I know is making reeds by hand, and believe this
to be the very best, I must agree that Russia is foremost in reed
making as they place quality over quantity and 'hand' over
machinery.
The 'optimal' was critical for many reasons. The reed swing, and
block chamber size, and the overall housing became careful
considerations. I saw where you mentioned the 16th and last
Vukovitch bayan owned by Veikko. I examined that instrument
when he and I were together about ten or twelve years ago. A
very very fine instrument. Veikko had a case made for the left
hand only and carries that with him everywhere. It is ingenius.
Indeed those Russian made reeds have a sparking color that is not by
chance but by choice. The lateral sides contribute greatly to this
quality in addition to the optimal stiffness of the steel. While this
supplies that quality, the negative side is that this lateral design
allows for easy breakage of the reed tongue as the support is
missing. German accordions can be found to employ this same
look, but there's reflect an even sectional thickness and which
defeats the handsome quality of the Russian reed. It is because
of the breakage that caused the Italians to place the trapezoid
design to use and which developed a more 'flutey' sound.
In my many years of working and studying reeds, I have also
experimented with various approaches to give that Russian
quality while at the same time, allow the reed to have strength.
Morbidoni was yet another who made reeds with a pyramid
center the length of the reed tongue. This by all means was a
terrific idea and it did work. However, this lasted only with
Morbidoni as it took much patience and time to work this vital
cross-section equivalent to all reed sizes. I must say that a
reedmaker must make all his reed sets uniform in quality and
sound.
I have found that it is best for the artists to have the highest
quality reeds, for the lesser player cannot comprehend their value
and the careful manner in which to perform with them. This is
one reason why there were always three stages of qualities in
accordion: Student line, semi-professional line, and
professional. Today however, it appears that even the beginner
wants the very best and for no good reason. It would be like
having a Porche' right after getting your driving license
application. It makes no sense to do these things.
Reed design and the specifications that go with it, are certainly
concerns, but only for the technician. The player should be
interested in his playing and whether the accordion performs to
his desire. Eventually, he will progress upward in quality as he
progresses upward in his abilities and agility.
I'm not sure I agree with your observation that the compactness
of chromatic accordions render a lesser 'boom' than piano
keyboard accordions.....because of the internal cavity. I might go
along with the amount of reeds in comparison to housing size.
or the reduction of sound board but I see the reed chamber and
the grille chamber as affecting parties. All this goes without
going into the woods, etc. which also have a direct bearing to
timbre. Again, I enjoyed your discussions.
Steve Navoyosky
(Go to #2)