An interesting observation re: Petosa & Bugari Advertising Claims

[Ventura]

that's interesting Jer

at least you have seen something that could be considered legit
(ps the link did not work)

but

i happen to know that the Giulietti brand was still owned by the family
beyond 2007 in the sense that they control who was allowed to market
anything using the name, but there is no-one in the family with chops
to say anything about models, specs, and design. The family had been
generally reluctant to allow much.

i did visit the old Zero factory and knew some of the people, it was
rough and they almost went out of business.. Bugari stepped in
as a friend which was good for both companies, but since that time
all Zero builds (under any name) were on Bugari bodies

but time has passed and if the Giulietti family actually let the rights go
(i doubt it) who knows.. G's are available in a few places now at retail
so something is different

hopefully you can find something out in person..

 

[OuijaBoard]

Sorry to be that guy but Carnegie is in the Pittsburgh area. More specifically, they are in Carnegie, PA. Liberty Bellows is in Philly.

Got it, and thanks for the correction.

 

[JudyKimp]

Speaking of postcards, this is my favourite accordion postcard, sold by Dino Baffetti.

You should run a contest for a caption of this picture!!!

 

[JudyKimp]

that's interesting Jer

at least you have seen something that could be considered legit
(ps the link did not work)

but

i happen to know that the Giulietti brand was still owned by the family
beyond 2007 in the sense that they control who was allowed to market
anything using the name, but there is no-one in the family with chops
to say anything about models, specs, and design. The family had been
generally reluctant to allow much.

i did visit the old Zero factory and knew some of the people, it was
rough and they almost went out of business.. Bugari stepped in
as a friend which was good for both companies, but since that time
all Zero builds (under any name) were on Bugari bodies

but time has passed and if the Giulietti family actually let the rights go
(i doubt it) who knows.. G's are available in a few places now at retail
so something is different

hopefully you can find something out in person..

His link worked for me perfectly - maybe it's your browser.

 

[Waldo]

I love my Baffetti. Seems to be blessed as well!

 

[debra]

I can understand the doubt in some people's mind. So if you didn't know already, have a look at this picture (screen shot from Google Street View):

Regardless of issues of ownership, Bugari and Zero Sette "share" the same factory.

As I said, it is a screenshot from Google Streetview. The cars driving around to create Google Streetview use ultrawide lenses.

 

[craigd]

You should run a contest for a caption of this picture!!!

"Yes, celibacy can be a challenge. But I find this helps."

 

[OuijaBoard]

I love my Baffetti. Seems to be blessed as well!

I had a small Baffetti PA that was stolen from my home along with too many others in a ransacking by burglars over the 3-day Presidents holiday a year ago. I loved it. I read somewhere that Baffetti still uses "old-fashioned Italian craftsmanship"--If that means a heavier, thicker wood chassis under the celluloid, that was indeed the case. But I loved the accordion.

 

[Hezekiah777]

The punch line to my joke is "Their personalities".......... it's funny, and so so true.

 

[Hezekiah777]

I love my Baffetti. Seems to be blessed as well!

I saw a Bafetti PA at petosa was a triple musette, sound was great, but who is selling the piano accordions. I see a lot of button boxes like at Emilios, but not PA's. I like they are highly decorated, very colorful too.

 

[mtj]

so you claim Bugari "owns" Zero, and are willing to
state that as if it were a fact, and somehow rate various
brand names as if you speak for the management as well

Well the Bugari web site Company page says they acquired Zero Sette and Giulietti in 2007 and I didn’t see anything to indicate they sold or ended either. Also on the web site I didn’t see Zero Sette or Giulietti accordions listed so I think it’s reasonable to assume the Bugari name is their flagship brand.

 

[JudyKimp]

"Yes, celibacy can be a challenge. But I find this helps."

Hysterical!!!

 

[Hezekiah777]

Yeah I ordered a triple musette tuned -5/+15 today with voci armoniche blue star reeds in a Bugari model 151. They negotiated the price and they gave me a really good deal. Dealer in New York. My 1st Bugari! I was having a hard time deciding. They also sell Giulietti, but I bought a Giulietti about 8 years ago from Petosa , wasn’t impressed.

 

[debra]

Yeah I ordered a triple musette tuned -5/+15 today with voci armoniche blue star reeds in a Bugari model 151. They negotiated the price and they gave me a really good deal. Dealer in New York. My 1st Bugari! I was having a hard time deciding. They also sell Giulietti, but I bought a Giulietti about 8 years ago from Petosa , wasn’t impressed.

Recent Giulietti accordions I have seen no longer had the signature grille with the large oval cutout (and typical register switches). Giulietti accordions with that grille and with cassotto have always sounded great. (Without cassotto not so great because of that grille.)
There is little incentive now to buy a Giulietti now, when you loved the sound of the old ones, because the new ones will never sound the same.

 

[OuijaBoard]

I saw a Bafetti PA at petosa was a triple musette, sound was great, but who is selling the piano accordions. I see a lot of button boxes like at Emilios, but not PA's. I like they are highly decorated, very colorful too.

I acquired my later-burglarized one from Emilio Accordions. But they don't list in-stock items online--you have to ask if there's anything available. Perhaps they deal by order, I don't know. I don't usually bother with dealers (of anything) who don't list what's in-stock and make you ask. It's just annoying given that these days one almost has to buy accordions long distance. I'm a fan of transparency about basic specs as well as price. But perhaps there are security reasons in this case, who knows. I should say though, I was happy with the purchase experience.

They did have that fire at Baffetti last year, not sure if they've fully ramped back up at present.

The other place I've seen that sometimes has a new Baffetti PA on hand is Squeezebox Marketplace in the UK. Not really practical for a US shopper, but . . . There's a 30/72 LMM here:

72 Bass Accordions For Sale – New & Used

Shop 72 bass accordions for sale at Squeezebox Marketplace. Discover instruments designed for rich sound and smooth play. Shop today or get in touch with any questions!

www.squeezeboxmarketplace.com

 

[Hezekiah777]

Recent Giulietti accordions I have seen no longer had the signature grille with the large oval cutout (and typical register switches). Giulietti accordions with that grille and with cassotto have always sounded great. (Without cassotto not so great because of that grille.)
There is little incentive now to buy a Giulietti now, when you loved the sound of the old ones, because the new ones will never sound the same.

My first serious accordion was a Giulietti F94 purchased from Arthur Welch at accordion connection, which I understand is now gone. It was about 20 some years ago, and it wasn’t a Zero Sette made Giulietti. It had the big silver G on the front with dural reeds. Someone told me it may have been made by Crown, but it was a big step up from my Excalibur that Jim Laabs sold me. It was a Chinese box, to learn on it was OK, I practiced three or four hours a day, my only observation was that you got a really good upper body workout with the Chinese model. Apparently you can copy anything in china but not so well when it comes to bellows design. Played that Giulietti for about ten years, and picked up a pristine Excelsior 308 along the way, sorry to have sold it along the way , had a beautiful 18 cent musette. Since I’m an old retired guy now, new bugari Will probably be it.

 

[Thomas N]

The punch line to my joke is "Their personalities".......... it's funny, and so so true.

This made me laugh....

 

[craigd]

The punch line to my joke is "Their personalities".......... it's funny, and so so true.

Speak for yourself ; )