breezybellows
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My first step at editing sounds. The first song was played on a scene that I made. The remaining songs were played using scenes that were already available.
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Extended test drive - Korg Fisa Suprema
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It sounds like understanding the bellows response will be quite a learning process. I only listened to the first part with the accordion sound and the dynamics is all over the place where you don't want it. I don't know whether there is a setting to reduce the effect of the bellows pressure somewhat because a small difference in pressure appears to make a huge difference in volume.
Thanks for the demo. Looks like there is a lot of capability with this Fisa. Of course, the first capability must come from the player.
I appreciate all the info you are giving to the forum on this new accordion.
I appreciate all the info you are giving to the forum on this new accordion.
breezybellows
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I'm sure that there are settings to adjust the sensitivity and the type of dynamics and modulation. We need to see how effective these settings are. For now, I'm impressed that it's able to add expression. The dynamics do sound exaggerated when I play it as I play my regular accordion. I do like the exaggerated expression. I just need to avoid sudden spikes.
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There is a wide selection of bellows parameters that are adjustable. There should be a combination of settings that will work out best for the player. Here they are:
Thanks John for this info. It looks like there is a lot to control and assuming that Joseph used the default settings some customization is definitely on order!
breezybellows
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I'm editing sounds and putting together my first scene for free bass accordion. This is a short debit with three different registers I created. At this point, I'm very impressed with the sounds. It was a pleasant experience to practice with these tones today.
I've tried to do this on my Evo. I like the Korg's output much better.
I've tried to do this on my Evo. I like the Korg's output much better.
They appear to have a good emulation how the bayan LL bass sounds. Sadly I don't like that on the Korg any better than on a real bayan. Even though supposedly tuned "in unison" it does not sound completely 100% dry. You did not accidentally have the "reed aging" factor set to anything other than 0. (That aging is something I would never ever use.)
breezybellows
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I like the LL option to add thickness to the bass tone without adding octaves. I didn't touch the age setting. I think it defaults to 1.
That could explain it. The lowest setting is 0. I like my accordios]ns "freshly tuned to perfection. But some may find that too clinical.
mmmusicman
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I want to build a scene but have absolutely no idea where to start. Is there any documentation anywhere? Maybe I missed something in the owner's manual but scratching my head right now. Just got my new Fisa Suprema.
Thomas N
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Joseph - Now that you've had a few weeks with your Fisa what are your thoughts - good and bad? I watch your YouTube videos whenever you release one and the sounds are really nice.
Particularly interested in your thoughts compared to the Evo, since I have an FR-8X that I love. I'm more interested in the physical aspects at this point. Does the lighter weight really help or is it something that was noticeable the first couple times playing it and then just kind of disappears? Do the keyboards compare well? The Evo is different than the FR-8X so that may not help me much. Bellows action, etc.
Thank you!
Particularly interested in your thoughts compared to the Evo, since I have an FR-8X that I love. I'm more interested in the physical aspects at this point. Does the lighter weight really help or is it something that was noticeable the first couple times playing it and then just kind of disappears? Do the keyboards compare well? The Evo is different than the FR-8X so that may not help me much. Bellows action, etc.
Thank you!
Just a note, the Evo is missing that velocity sensitivity on the right hand, that is why the keyboard feels shallower/faster.
Does the Fisa have velocity sensitivity?
breezybellows
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I didn't find the manual very useful on that regard.
I figured it out by tinkering with it. When you're in a scene, you can press the menu button to edit the sounds for each sound type (accordion, orch1, orch2, organ, soloist, bass and chords). This is very similar to how you'd do it on the older 8x/Evo.
When you're done, hold down the scene button (one of the six) that is already lit up. Whatever changes you made will now be saved to the scene.
breezybellows
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Yes it does. That was one of my main concerns because I loved the Evo keyboard that was very much like an accordion keyboard. But the Fisa's keyboard action is a happy middle ground between the 8x and the Evo.
breezybellows
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I like it. I'm selling my Evo because I didn't need two digital accordions.
It feels much much lighter. Very noticeable. Although, that's not a big deal for me because the Evo's weight never bothered me. So it's not a critical factor. It is more compact as well.
Keyboard action is comparable.
To me, the biggest differentiating factor is the bellows action. A marked improvement.
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