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As of about an hour ago, I became the owner of a Roland FR-8x. :b

I was thinking about the whole series of events that had to happen for this accordion (well... V-accordion) to have fallen in to my possession, and it's a story I will leave for a bit later, suffice to say it's an amazing series of circumstances that all ended up with me bringing home an accordion that has only about 5 total hours of use, so it is for all intents brand new.

The price was I think quite fair at $3500Cdn or about $2600US (2400 Euro or 2100 pounds sterling for those in other parts of the world). Tomorrow I am off to spend again and buy some longer MIDI cables!

Now... where is that damn encyclopedia that Roland calls a user manual again... lol

I'll post some impressions later on after I spend a few dozen hours with it, but for now, I am feeling quite happy and even a little blessed. :D
 
Sounds like a once in a lifetime bargain.
I hope you really enjoy it.
 
Hahaha.... Jerry, reading you past posts, somehow I knew that this day would come..... :b {}
Congratulations on the great deal. :ch
 
Let the fun begin! I believe you can download the user's manual from the Roland website.
 
JerryPH said:
As of about an hour ago, I became the owner of a Roland FR-8x. :b
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The price was I think quite fair at $3500Cdn or about $2600US (2400 Euro or 2100 pounds sterling for those in other parts of the world). Tomorrow I am off to spend again and buy some longer MIDI cables!
Congratulations! Im sure it will be a completely different experience than the Morino. And it may take some getting used to having only 41 keys...
I have been thinking about it for a long time, if only because a digital accordion never needs tuning. But Im still not in love with the sound.
Enjoy the new experience!
 
Congratulations Jerry. A very good price indeed.
Make sure it is loaded with the latest firmware ( details on the Roland website). As Paul says, It will be different from your Morino but not so much number of keys but rather the bellows action. It will take a while to have it how you want and further down the line accept it is not the same and stop agonising over it and got on learning how to use the difference to your advantage.
Btw, what's with the midi cables? Why not use usb direct to your computer?
 
I will look forward to hearing what someone with your IT skills does with it.
 
landro said:
Sounds like a once in a lifetime bargain.
I hope you really enjoy it.
Thanks! I have a good feeling that its going to be a lot of fun in my future. :)

pentaprism said:
Hahaha.... Jerry, reading you past posts, somehow I knew that this day would come..... :b {}
Congratulations on the great deal. :ch
LOL. Really?? Heck, to be honest, I did like the thought, but the idea of getting a new 8x was not something that I thought could happen considering all the circumstances in my life lately, but the short story is that about 20 almost wild circumstances had to happen in a specific order for me to have that accordion sitting on my table this morning. Thanks!

JackieC said:
Let the fun begin! I believe you can download the users manual from the Roland website.
:D Would you believe that Id had already downloaded the manual about 2 months ago? In my discussions here and elsewhere, I had a few questions and I am the kind of person that prefers to find answers out myself rather than ask... but looking at things, it might be quicker to ask a few newbie questions and concentrate on getting to know it as quickly as I can.

debra said:
Congratulations! Im sure it will be a completely different experience than the Morino. And it may take some getting used to having only 41 keys...
I have been thinking about it for a long time, if only because a digital accordion never needs tuning. But Im still not in love with the sound.
Enjoy the new experience!
Paul, I think I would be the most surprised person here if you ever picked up ANYTHING similar, you are such a purist that I doubt there is anything on the market today that would entice you (thats meant as a compliment, not an insult). :)

Oh, and dont think you cannot tune a V-accordion. Though they may not fall out of tune, you can detune them for different kinds of musette. I could see you spending days getting the sounds right and making 14 different styles of mussette, just because its possible... lol

Glenn said:
Congratulations Jerry. A very good price indeed.
Make sure it is loaded with the latest firmware (details on th ed Roland website). As Paul says, It will be different from your Morino but not so much number of keys but rather the bellows action. It will take a while to have it how you want and further down the line accept it is not the same and stop agonising over it and got on learning how to use the difference to your advantage.
Btw, whats with the midi cables? Why not use usb direct to your computer?

Thanks Glenn, you were one of the people that I hopped would put in your 2 cents because you currently own a 8x and I know that first hand experience trumps reading or seeing how things work every time. Thanks for posting. :)

The original owner was an 82-83 year old guy that was barely computer literate. The accordion has a few settings changed, but has the Dallape and Alpine expansions. It still has the original v.2 firmware that does require updates. Before updating the firmware, I need to learn how to back up everything... heck as of this morning, I dont even know how to access the expansion sounds yet so Ive not even heard this part of the accordion yet! :lol:

I agree, those bellow actions are going to take time to get used to, as is the key velocity and many other things, but then again, its all new to me so its a learning process from the first moment I turned it on. A little bit of agonizing is just part of the growing experience and I know I will get past that pretty quick. I learn to adapt to many things, and if I can make this V mine and do what I want, I cannot ask for more.

About the MIDI cables, I still own a Ketron X4 arranger, and will use it for back tracks, but for sure that USB cable is also coming, though I am not exactly sure what the Roland can do when connected to the computer, this is a completely new concept for me... but Ill add that longer USB cable to the list.

Matt Butcher said:
I will look forward to hearing what someone with your IT skills does with it.
Hey Matt. The big thing is learning what it does, find what I like and making it mine.

Believe it or not, I have challenged myself to perform at the local accordionist club Christmas part on December 10th. I need to have ready about an hours worth of music, complete with backtracks and thats a good bit of work in a short time (considering I still need to work and be away from home for a full week between now and then).

I know that there is no editor for the X8, so Ill find out how people like Richard Noel are making their setups and learn to make my own sounds and all, but thats not going to come for a couple of months, right now, its all about the basics and just getting to know this marvel of complexity.

To make things even more interesting, Ive just recently started messing with Reaper (a DAW) and Kontakt along with about 450gb of sound samples (about a dozen accordions in there), so thats added on top of the pile of mini-challenges to the list. I cannot think of a better base to start from, to immerse myself with the electronic and digital worlds.

Thanks so much everyone. :)

Oh... for those that would be interested in reading a more complete versionof the story. :D
 
Congratulations! Now you are one of us siths :twisted:

Matt Butcher said:
I know that there is no editor for the X8, so Ill find out how people like Richard Noel are making their setups and learn to make my own sounds and all, but thats not going to come for a couple of months, right now, its all about the basics and just getting to know this marvel of complexity.
There are very useful videos on Richard Noels page

As to the editor, there was a nice try to create one, so you as a computer man can give it a run:
https://github.com/hyphz/fr8x-editor
https://github.com/hyphz/fr8x-editor-cs
 
Sweet! Thanks for the link to the editor, I'll definitely check it out and put it to good use once I've spent a bit of time getting to know this box of mine a little better. Thank-you!
 
JerryPH said:
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Paul, I think I would be the most surprised person here if you ever picked up ANYTHING similar, you are such a purist that I doubt there is anything on the market today that would entice you (thats meant as a compliment, not an insult). :)
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Never say never... I have been using a digital piano for a very long time. So who knows a V-accordion might be part of my future at some point in time. I also never expected to switch from PA to CBA and ended up doing that too. And if anyone would have suggested that at some point I would be playing a C system Russian bayan I would have thought they were delusional. Still, that happened too. The one thing digital accordions are still missing is good accordion sound straight from the instrument. I play mostly in ensembles (with only real accordions) and unless a digital one could really pass as an accordion without external sound system it will be a no-no. It would be fun to play with but just as an extra toy its still quite an expense unless at a bargain price like what you found.
 
Please give us some videos while playing! I'd love to see that. I've been thinking about buying one too, but they are so expensive. Or maybe not more expensive than a regular accordion, but still.
 
Well, I have to admit, I was very, very lucky to get one at the price that I paid, but I think it is reasonable to assume that there are going to be more 8x's on the market when the 9X comes out, so for someone that has the interest, it would be wise to start saving now, as there are definitely going to be a few 8X owners that will want to upgrade and will have a desire to sell them faster, so that is always a way to get the price to drop a bit.

As for the videos, they will come as soon as I learn how to play the darn thing... lol I know I will be playing at the Accordionist club Christmas dinner. I have absolutely NO idea how that will turnout, but I will do my best, and I am sure my mother will be there with video camera in hand. :)
 
debra said:
The one thing digital accordions are still missing is good accordion sound straight from the instrument.
Well, you have to admit one thing... there is no other MIDI accordion that offers a sampled Gola sound like this, and does a pretty fair imitation, right down to only having 11 registers! Hey, I finally got my Gola... lol

http://syner-g.asuscomm.com/mymusic/files/gola.jpg>
gola.jpg


Kidding aside, I found this set at one of the Yahoo forums. Someone took the time to make a good try at a registration. Its not complete and the registers are in the wrong places, but you know what, it sincerely has a bit of that characteristic trait of the Gola! :D
 
There are also Scandalli Super VI and Vignoni imitations from the same source: Bob Berta has done a terrific work!
 
The Scandalli one I have as well, the Vignoni one gives me an "incompatible version" error when I try to install it. I may have to try to delete the files and download once more, just in case.
This was just all about the joke of having a Gola. :)
 
I guess you havent installed the latest firmware version (2.01). You can get it here: https://www.roland.com/global/products/fr-8x/downloads/
It has a large amount of important updates/features, there is also an additional documentation. I would recommend reading the Yahoo forum about the update procedure; in my experience it doesnt reset the expansions ;)
 
kep said:
I guess you havent installed the latest firmware version (2.01). You can get it here: https://www.roland.com/global/products/fr-8x/downloads/
It has a large amount of important updates/features, there is also an additional documentation. I would recommend reading the Yahoo forum about the update procedure; in my experience it doesnt reset the expansions ;)

Thanks, I had just completed that this morning. I wanted to wait until I had some other things in place, like a better understanding about backups and what not, before doing it. Had to make sure all those changes I am making were not lost, nor that I lost any of the expansions.

The instructions on the Roland site were clear and most importantly nothing was lost in the end, which is the most important thing.

http://syner-g.asuscomm.com/mymusic/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/updating.jpg>
updating.jpg


 
Welcome to the V-Accordion world!! I bought mine about a year ago - I absolutely love it!!!!! My 40 year old accordion has been put away!!!! I have never been so happy as I am playing my Fr8X!!!!!!!

Brandy D
 
BrandyD said:
Welcome to the V-Accordion world!!
Thanks Brandy!

Ok, let me add add one more event to this thread. About 3 hours ago, my sister called me to drive her. She has a friend with tons of old records, so she found this pawn shop and asked me to take her, which is unusual because she is fiercely independant and drives herself everywhere, but today she was at the dentist and had a bit of a harrowing experience there, still wasnt feeling well, but had to stop in to this place, so I drove her there and back.

While there, she is talking to the guy getting information for her friend and what not. I am just looking around the store, spot an open box that was supposed to hold a Sony Personal sound system with Bluetooth. I was curious so peered in it. Whatever was inside was upside down, so I reached in and pulled it out and flipped it over for a look.

Well hells bells... I was holding on to a used Roland BK-7m!!

I call over the sales guy and casually ask the price, he says it and I almost start reaching for my wallet. My sister walks over, asks me what it is, and I explain. She shakes her head and starts dickering with the guy. Initial price was $979Cdn but he was going to let it go for $825, but after mi sister was done with him... $675, TAXES INCLUDED (thats a few pennies over $500US)! A new one here is over $1550 with taxes, so I am super pleased! :D

The box:
http://syner-g.asuscomm.com/mymusic/files/bk7m2.jpg>
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What was in the box:
http://syner-g.asuscomm.com/mymusic/files/bk7m1.jpg>
bk7m1.jpg


Im not questioning it, but... why all the good Karma for me this week?? First the FR-8x and now this?? Maybe I need to buy a lottery ticket :)
 
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