learning treble and bass tune technique

[jarvo]

....every flaming musician in the world calls it muscle memory....

I dont.

And I flinch when other people use that phrase, because it gives the wrong impression of how memory works. However, usually I just keep quiet.

..crikey..

 

[Buttons]

Doing a bit of googling I see that Bert Weedon (remember him) may be to blame for the chord trick bit as a means to learning to play the guitar quickly. They say modern pop was built on three chords. Rolling Stones (remember them), a good number of country and western singers, etc. So not so bad. Best wishes.

 

[george garside]

not directly connected but mention of the Rolling stones reminded me that their drummer is reputed to have modelled his rhythm on that of Sir Jimmy Shands band.!

george

 

[Anyanka]

That's an interesting bit of info, George - I saw Bill Wyman with a boogie & blues pianist a little while ago; he's quite versatile

 

[jarvo]

Doing a bit of googling I see that Bert Weedon (remember him) may be to blame for the chord trick bit as a means to learning to play the guitar quickly. They say modern pop was built on three chords. Rolling Stones (remember them), a good number of country and western singers, etc. So not so bad. Best wishes.

Exactamundo....the term trick was applied in the late 60s and early 70s by those who dismissed pop, blues , rock etc as exactly that and the term was used condescendingly.......

Most modern music...well certainly up to the 90s rock and roll , C + W, thus pop, rock (certainly),rhythm and blues were all founded or developed from the Blues and obviously the Blues are predominantly three chords.......

 

[dunlustin]

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[jarvo]

I think that the three chord tunes that I am familiar with do utilise the "extensions" (?) of the major - the sevenths and the minors....Blues will change the Major for the dom 7 in various steps of the song ....or if there is a chorus the there may be a minor ...

The Banjo music I have come across so far is ....well ..a bit ....I can't say it....I adapt other tunes to learn as well as the "Old Time and Bluegrass" (shudder).....though to be fair the banjo is more about the picking patterns and rolls than harmonies ....in its basic form ..or so I get the impression.......

 

[donn]

I think that the three chord tunes that I am familiar with do utilise the extensions (?) of the major - the sevenths and the minors....Blues will change the Major for the dom 7 in various steps of the song ....or if there is a chorus the there may be a minor .

For more on common variations in blues progressions, http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/blues/bluesprogression.html[/url]

 

[jarvo]

I think that the three chord tunes that I am familiar with do utilise the extensions (?) of the major - the sevenths and the minors....Blues will change the Major for the dom 7 in various steps of the song ....or if there is a chorus the there may be a minor .

For more on common variations in blues progressions, http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/blues/bluesprogression.html[/url][/quote]


Good call donn this is very interesting ...........and useful...

 

[george garside]

Just to clarify what I have previously said - when referring to the 3 chord ''method'' I automatically include whatever other chords are in the relevant 3 diagonal rows of stradella bass which will of course depend on the bass layout of a particular box. minor, 7th and dim to be experimented with once the basic 3 major chords are mastered.

When referring to the 3 chord 'method ''plus'' am referring to using the appropriate 3 chords for a tune and additionaly experimenting by going a bit further up or down in terms of diagonal bass rows.

george

 

[jarvo]

...and just to be absolutely sure that three chordsare ok...I was watching an old Star Trek episode the other night ...and Jim asked Bones to break out the Tri-Chorder.. :b


Though I suspect it's properly a Tri -Corder

 

[Guernseyman]

It could be a try harder!

 

[jarvo]

Oh what ? A Four -Chorder ? ! :lol:

You'll have the chord police after you !