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Oivind Farmen's 2009 YT videos show the stepped free bass accordion, great for easier left thumb use on the accordion. Check out his Scarlatti video.
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Some questions about the free bass system
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The first video I found of him was nothing short of incredible, but if you look at the video where he talks about it, he indeed can/does use his thumb.
His ability impresses the heck out of me... the stepped bass... not so much. Not that it isnt fantastic as an idea and implementation, just that I got used to having my 3 rows up top.
One thing stood out for me... did you hear the balance between his left and right hands?? That free bass is LOUD compared to other converter instruments I have heard. I like that a lot!
His ability impresses the heck out of me... the stepped bass... not so much. Not that it isnt fantastic as an idea and implementation, just that I got used to having my 3 rows up top.
One thing stood out for me... did you hear the balance between his left and right hands?? That free bass is LOUD compared to other converter instruments I have heard. I like that a lot!
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Wow the stepped free bass is cool. I saw Øivind Farmen's performance few months ago with a link sent by a friend from US and got stunned by his left hand technique but I didn't know he used a special free bass system. And it's unusual to see a Swedish player using the B system, usually they play C-system according to my impression. And what even unusual is he got a free bass system arranged like a C-system (with low on top and high on low)!
It makes sense to use such a system if you want to use your thumb a lot (where can we get it?) But I wonder if it will limit the other 4 fingers to access the 1st and 2nd row of it (since they are located in a plane with "lower" position specifically designed for the thumb)?
In normal free bass system you can still use your thumb, but only on the 1st row, at least for my tiny hand. :tup:
It makes sense to use such a system if you want to use your thumb a lot (where can we get it?) But I wonder if it will limit the other 4 fingers to access the 1st and 2nd row of it (since they are located in a plane with "lower" position specifically designed for the thumb)?
In normal free bass system you can still use your thumb, but only on the 1st row, at least for my tiny hand. :tup:
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There is even a USA patent of a stepped free bass, with those rows higher up for better left hand grip and control. I think it was in the 1960s. A unique make still exists. Somewhere on the net is a photo and article of this accordion with a special 4 rows layout. You could also make this with CBA layout.
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It Just popped up in my head, It's the 1979 Enrico Mastronardi patent, See Google patents.
By the way, Dr. Franz Michael Gerl had a very clever idea back in 1890: he changed the angle in the C-system layout, no thumbs needed in his layout. See the bandonion.info website in German. Or the Laurent Jarry book pages 170-172, called Tresors de lames.
By the way, Dr. Franz Michael Gerl had a very clever idea back in 1890: he changed the angle in the C-system layout, no thumbs needed in his layout. See the bandonion.info website in German. Or the Laurent Jarry book pages 170-172, called Tresors de lames.
Well from two places, but both in the same town, Castel Fidardo Italy, the Scandalli and Zero Sette factories are both there, however they are not in the catalogs, so they may be custom jobs.Acon said:
It isnt a one off in any case. I have seen a video on YouTube (but of course now cannot find it again) of a young boy playing a Jupiter bayan with stepped free bass.Acon said:
Some old Russian bayans also had stepped bass for plain Stradella and free bass. Maybe not to the same degree as Øivind Farmens and maybe there were some other practical/manufacturing reasons.
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Free bass:
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It isnt a one off in any case. I have seen a video on YouTube (but of course now cannot find it again) of a young boy playing a Jupiter bayan with stepped free bass.[/quote]Acon said:
Not the Jupiter, but is a video that starts of with a kid playing a small Scandalli with stepped melody bass (and obviously he is phenomenal!) So maybe I remember it wrong (as I think this is a Russian video).
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That is a fantastic video Paul ! Thank you for sharing this YT video from Rostov on the Don.
If I read the comments below the video it is the Bogdan Precz "Toccata" the kid is playing?
If I read the comments below the video it is the Bogdan Precz "Toccata" the kid is playing?
I think I might worry about pressure at his age if he was my child.
wow to pretty much all people in this video!
That I can speak of from personal experience... Its not easy on the kid, it changes them in many ways, not all good.TW said:
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