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The Dallape' sound

Interesting, but there is a reputed maker in Québec that says that the reedblock material is irrelevant! According to him, it's about the space underneath the reeds (called alvéole in French) and what frequency they are set to. For those who can understand French:
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That "space" is called the resonance chamber. Sadly accordion makers seem to have skipped that science lesson... but also, the available room in the resonance chamber for each note is too small to really resonate the corresponding note well.
I have seen the reed blocks on for instance a Bugari 288 and 508 (4 voice, double cassotto, the 288 being PA and the 508 being CBA). The reed blocks are identical, yet the same notes are not positioned the same in these accordions. The PA has one block with almost all notes from white keys (minus the highest E) and the other block has all notes from black keys (plus the highest E). The CBA has one block with all notes from the first row of buttons and half of the second row and the other block has all other notes. The PA has 41 notes (F up to A) and the CBA has 46 notes (E to C#). As a result the same notes appear in different positions on these blocks, and thus also on positions with a different size resonance chamber. These chambers cannot all be "tuned" (sized) for the note mounted on them. When I look at the wave form accordions produce for different notes the wave forms are radically different. For some notes it may be close to a sine wave (so maybe the resonance chamber matches the note closely) and for other notes it is very different (probably the resonance chamber is the wrong size for the note).
There is a whole science to explain how to make reed blocks that are "right", but accordion makers are artisans rather than scientists.
 
Your two sentences tells about him explicitly........."says that the reedblock material is irrelevant" According to him it's the space underneath the reeds............and what frequency they are set to.
Then you state that he says that the ideal material for a reedblock would be aluminum. [Ideal for what? sound quality?]

However the proof of sound is by using a tuning fork on a reedblock in various ways.

A competent journeyman realizes that a reedblock needs the value of an accordion shell to provide the true sound of an accordion.
He indeed says that the sound gets propagated from the reedblock to the body of the instrument and that produces the instrument's tone and sound properties.
 
Glad to finally hear someone else say that in fact "it isn't the reeds" that make most of the sound of an accordion. Sure, the stiffness of the reeds influences the sound, and the gap between the reed tongue and the hole in the reed plate it goes through influences air consumption and how much "hiss" there is from spilled air, and it influences how cold it can get before the reeds stop playing (because the somewhat shrunken reed tongue can no longer go through the much more shrunken hole in the reed plate. (It's steel versus aluminium... expansion rate different by about a factor of 2.)
I played and worked on several seemingly identical Bugari Artist Cassotto 285/ARS accordions, which contained reeds of the same quality type but from different manufacturers... and they all sounded the same. Yet, take for instance an older Pigini Sirius and a Hohner Gola, from the same era, both fitted with Salpa a mano reeds, and their sound is vastly different.
I firmly believe that most of what makes the sound of an accordion is the reed blocks: how wide they are at the base versus at the top, i.e. are they more towards rectangular or more trapezoid with narrower top? An old Hohner Morino has nearly rectangular reed blocks (seen from the end) and for instance a Victoria has reed blocks that are much narrower at the top. That means the resonance chambers inside the blocks are very different and that causes the same type of reeds to sound differently.
Other than that what's impeding the sound to come out, i.e. what's under the grille and where are the holes in the grille... that too has great influence. Register mechanisms block (higher frequencies in) the sound of what's underneath them. Solid (versus open) parts of the grille do the same, giving Giulietti accordions a special sound (with just an oval cutout in the grille). Some things under the grille have great influence, like a sordino, and some do very little, like the "tube chamber" in some Titano accordions. Likewise the sound of the bass depends a lot on the construction of the bass compartment (holding the mechanics) and the position and size of holes to let the sound come out. The sound resonates so much inside the bass compartment that even with high-end accordion microphones a single mic capsule inside the bass compartment is enough to capture the sound of all the notes, regardless of where they are on the reed blocks. On the treble side the "compartment" under the grille does little enough that about 4 or 5 mic capsules are needed to capture the sound more or less evenly. (The very commonly used three-mic Sennheiser modules simply do not give a sufficiently even sound.)
The woods are another important factor. The Hohner "Metalbau" accordions have a terrible sound (but liked a lot by some...). A wooden case gives the sound more body, resonating midrange frequencies more and dampening higher frequencies somewhat.
There is so much to the accordion construction and its influence on the sound that is visible and perhaps even more that's invisible. When looking inside accordions there are invisible mysteries. For instance: when I look at the cassotto construction of a Hohner Morino N or S series and put it next to that of say a Bugari, I simply cannot see anything that might explain why on the Morino (made by Excelsior) the M register sounds more mellow than the L register whereas on the Bugari it's the other way around. To go further, the Gola also has that mellow M register yet again nothing inside looks more similar between the Morino and the Gola than between them and the Bugari (or a Scandalli or a Pigini for that matter).

So when you say "Questions?" it's hard to make questions concrete, but there is a lot I do not understand about what part of which accordion has which influence on which aspects of the sound... And that is hard for me to accept, with my scientific background which makes me always want to understand rather than just accept what something is.
Ther is no such thing identical sound in the bugari example you mentioned....even if the accordions are the same model same year,each one is a bit different as they are hand made,milimetrical differences.
This differences will result in a unique tone.there s too many factors....the wood for instance cannot be the same piece of wood...it s mahagony from a different part of the tree for example,slightly different fibre which will produce a different sound.
So each accordion is unique in a way and should be! as it s hand made.
 
Interesting, but there is a reputed maker in Québec that says that the reedblock material is irrelevant! According to him, it's about the space underneath the reeds (called alvéole in French) and what frequency they are set to. For those who can understand French:



At 1:30 he does a demonstration using a tuning fork, showing that the material of the reedblock does not affect the sound.
He says that the ideal material for a reedblock would be aluminum, but makers choose wood because it's easy to work with.

from the outside can't be influenced....but inside is critical for resonance.
 
There was a time in my life, a good seventy years ago, when I could tell the dirrerences in tone among the accordions that surrounded me. Then, I quit playing for a very long time. During that time, somewhere around thirty years ago, I could no longer hear the high-pitched whistle (15.750 KHz) made by vacuum tube television receivers. My ability to hear highs decreased gradually since then to the point that, even with hearing aids helping with the frequencies I still have, I can’t tell the difference in tone from one accordion to another.

BUT I STILL ENJOY PLAYING!
 
the famed horizontal oscillator tube !

yes, this was the universal standard reference point for how our ears were
doing for pretty much all us po' boys.. Ear doctor's were a last resort !

hot water squirted in from a bulb pretty much the first line
of remedy while the scruffy young patient screamed and squirmed
 
When my daughter had to have her ears irrigated it was raincoats for all!

My internist at that time probably had a hearing loss of his own. When I told him I suspected that I had some loss, he held a wristwatch up to my ear and shouted, “CAN YOU HEAR THAT?” It took a visit to an ENT to explain my tinnitus and follow up on a canal infection to get me to an audiologist.
 
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