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What are the right questions to ask when looking for a new accordion?

RYLUNDO

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I recently learned that the accordion I inherited is unable to be repaired due to mold and rusty reeds so I have been searching for used accordions. I have been specifically looking for diatonic accordions similar to steirische harmonikas. I have found a listing that seems really nice and it comes with case and straps. There is a private video posted on youtube that is about 4 minutes long showing the condition of sound, tightness of bellows, and physical condition. I have already checked in with the seller to see if it is still available and am now wondering if there are any really important questions I need or should ask. I can post the link to the video in this thread but I am unsure if I am supposed to post the link to someone else's private video. It is an older 3-row GCF Melodija brand accordion. I know it has at least 1 gleichton as a standalone button after the row of F. Thank you for your time.
 
Just generally if you are satisfied the video shows good compression, efficient reeds and it is in tune with itself. I would ask about the tuning standard. If you ever want to play with others it is costly to get an accordion retuned to 440 if it was set too far off. It would also be wise to ask about how the reeds currently look, instruments that have been excessively tuned or tuned incorrectly may not have much useful life yet.
 
I'll make sure to ask. I'm new to music in general so an instrument being tuned to 440 gives you a better chance to have music pair if you are playing with others?
 
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Re: ' I have been searching for used accordions.'
I know this is not an answer to your question but have you investigated Liberty Bellows?
A respected shop may help you avoid unwelcome surprises and at the least gives an idea of what is around.
Good luck!

 
"What are the right questions to ask when looking for a new accordion?"

That is a good question, let's start with:

- what genres of music are you looking to play?
- what kind of accordion appeals to you, button or piano?
- how technical do you see yourself becoming over 5-10 years?
- what are your musical goals?
- do you plan to take lessons from a teacher and what kinds of teachers are available to you?
- what is your physical condition and do you have any conditions that affect you?
- what is your budget and are you willing to wait to save more to purchase something a bit better or I want it yesterday?
- how committed do you feel to the process?
 
I know this is not an answer to your question but have you investigated Liberty Bellows?
That is a good question, let's start with:
I'll try to answer those questions in order.

1. I have looked into Liberty Bellows, but the instruments that do intrigue me are way over budget. They are reputable but not in my cost range.
2. I'm looking to play traditional Czech polkas and waltzes. Those are my two favorite genres. Maybe try European alpine music.
3. Diatonic Button Accordion. I'm trying to find a steirische harmonika as they are used for my preferred genre.
4. I do not plan on ever performing professionally just for fun because I love the music.
5. I do not read sheet music yet but plan to try learning. In the mean time, my goal is to be able to play people's song recommendations so I would like to learn how to play a lot of songs.
6. I met a member of a band who plays by ear and he has been willing to help me learn the basics. They aren't full-on lessons but he has helped whenever I need help.
7. I have no physical conditions that I know of and I hope I don't for a long time. I'm only 18 so that would really stink.
8. I would prefer not to spend more than $800. I am fairly patient so I am not going to jump on the first listing that interests me.
9. I believe I am committed to learning the accordion. I starting kinda learning with a half-working accordion and even that was very enjoyable so I can't imagine how much more enjoyable it will be with an accordion that is fully functional.
 
The supply of steirische Harmonikas in the US is quite tight... but I have seen good ones go for much more than $800 even if they are 50 years old. There's a real risk of getting a half-functional steirische at that price range. (The Mexican style diatonics, 3 rows without Gleichton, are much more abundant, and cheap mass-produced ones are a lot easier to find.)

If you found a 3-row box with *one* Gleichton that would be a real novelty. Most of the steirische will have a Gleichton on all but one row (so 2 Gleichtöne with 3 rows, 3 Gleichtöne with 4 rows.)

I have three of them in my closet, still sorta-functional but using way too much air, waiting to be serviced. Maybe by summertime I'll have them fixed up and be willing to part with one...
 
this is a type i know little about, but is this the scandalli of steirische harmonika ?


they have an app ! they have midi !

and in the USA wouldn't Kimric have this kind of stuff
or is that a whole different kind of little button thing
from those saltarelles and such ?

good luck

oh and have you considered applying to join/study with the Tamburitzans ?
i imagine they provide the instrument with the curriculum or something like that..
they used to be part of Duke unniv. but are separate now so maybe the
scholarship program is gone.. i dunno

or is that different stuff ?
 
If you fancy a trip to St. Catherines, Ontario there is a GCF Melodija for around $1.1K USD on Facebook Marketplace:
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i imagine they provide the instrument with the curriculum or something like that..
they used to be part of Duke unniv. but are separate now so maybe the
scholarship program is gone.. i dunno
Strasser is a very nice brand but it is very expensive, I don't think they sell anything under $2000. I have never heard of any programs that provide and instrument but that would be interesting to look into.
 
Strasser is a very nice brand but it is very expensive, I don't think they sell anything under $2000. I have never heard of any programs that provide and instrument but that would be interesting to look into.
hey Ry,

i am sending you a private message.. i have a lead for you to follow
 
I found it interesting to read about those who are looking to purchase accordions, having concerns about quality, what to look for, and shipping , etc.

I'm sharing some of my "maybe ancient or redundant for some" experience only in shipping and hope it may help.
In the many years of both shipping and receiving hundreds of accordions in preparing, packing, shipping, etc. I've never had any damages or claims for damages by using the procedure taught to me in Italy by Excelsior both in Montreal and in Italy-- the original, not the current...
I'm aware others have used similar procedures.

All accordions, especially for international clients, first had a strip of cardboard inserted in the bass section 'pistons' to prevent the bass buttons from moving, with a short label attached to the instrument warning not to try the basses without removal, then the instrument wrapped in clear plastic, placed in its case with base section down of course - ( have seen some accordions shipped outside down even from owners!)...
The instrument then is surrounded by styrofoam sheets at the sides and front thick enough to prevent any movement when the case is closed, the straps rolled into a foam sleeve and placed on the grill. If needed, wrapping a sheet or 2 of crumpled paper to prevent the straps from moving as well. The case was then wrapped in plastic again to make it easier when removal at the other end.
Now the really important part... The shipping containers were always either double or triple thickness depending on the size and weight of the accordions and case and it was slightly larger than the case dimensions,. Accordion and case were placed in the carton after a layer of styrofoam was placed in the bottom of the container, then styrofoam sheets were inserted in all spaces at sides and top, basically to prevent any movement of the contents. The case handle was left open with a cutout of the foam so as to have equal pressure on all sides.
Heavy duty industrial packaging tape sealed all 6 sides. Address and Sender labels were also sealed with transparent tape.
We always added FRAGILE or DELICATE INSTRUMENTS labels on at least 2 sides and top - NEVER ACCORDION!!! - knowing that some hated the instrument.. And we added the word TOP and arrows pointing UP on all sides. Often took photos as well before shipping, and especially for hi-end accordions Always insured of course and any insurance fees were simply added to the purchase price or repair costs.
As said above, I cannot recall ever seeing a damaged instrument or making a claim. On receiving shipments, always checked the carton with the delivery agent present.
NEVER ever shipped an accordion without its case..... have seen it unfortunately... foam wrapping doesn't help....
Two things - I hope this was not patronizing and hope also it may help those who are looking at purchases from longer distances -
--good idea to request that level of shipping.. worth the extra cost....
 
As a generic response to "what questions to ask when buying an accordion," I wanted to give a plug to George Bachich and his Piano Accordion Owners Manual and Buyer's Guide. At the end of the book is a multiple-page Accordion condition inspection report describing Bachich's procedure when buying an accordion. Much info on his site, which may include the inspection report questions. Book is well worth the purchase price IMO. Good luck!

Link: Accordion Revival
 
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