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Whatever happened to the Proxima?
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In the US they call it "Superbowl".
'our' not 'out'?
Well, after thoroughly wracking my brain for another example I finally was able to remember that you play piano accordion and I button accordion. What a relief!
SteveBox
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My impression from the published Proxima information is that the physical part is a similar but smaller version of the Evo, but with different electronics, perhaps a combination of new programming features and borrowed sound technology, and at a lower price.
If it's disposable electronica at less than a grand then I'm in!
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SteveBox
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I think the price is expected to be about $6K, not cheap, but less than an Evo or Cavagnolo Digit Air. It remains to be seen if they ever get this to market and sell enough of them to stay in business. They would be wise to not repeat Roland's mistake, and have it come pre-programmed out of the box with the best accordion sounds it is capable of generating.
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Well, now with the Korg out, this pretty much places a nail in the coffin of Proxima before they even sell one “official” accordion. I doubt they could ever be very competitive… but I would say that competition, no matter what is a good thing.
I am not sure. If I interpreted (and remember) what I read correctly, the Proxima again was supposed to be in the Roland hardware line. The Korg isn't. People that are invested into working with Roland technology might still prefer the Proxima.
My 2 cents. I remember the Proxima video. I noticed that for organ tones they had about 6 specific sounds -- like the Fisa will have for the pipe organ sounds. These will will be in the Orchestral section -- just like the 8X has a few. What the Fisa has that the Proxima didn't have is the Drawbar tonewheel sounds of the Hammond. In the manual, The Fisa has the tonewheel Hammond. It is identical to the B3 that was in the 8X, with a few more features such as an octave Drawbar shift on the upper manual that the 8X didn't have for the tonewheel organ. Creating the 9 nine drawbar footages with 8 volume selections for each drawbar cannot be a very simple task. The Roland had this, so I believe the Fisa's foundation is based on the 8X and not on the Proxima. That's just my guess, since I really don't know "squat" about the detailed programming of these digital accordions. I'm just viewing these instruments from the "10,000 foot level".
The "actual experience" part of my pontifications is based solely on a modest old FR-1 that had the misfortune of falling into my possession. I wonder what kind of foot level would have to be ascribed to that. Probably a height reserved to divinity.
Ventura
Been here for ages!
1: Korg was making hammond clone drawbar stuff decades before Roland
Roland has never shared squat with Korg, and i absolutely guarantee you
that while Korg may have also licensed some stuff from Bruti, there was zip
zero absolutely nothing outside of Rolands own developed sound
engine in any FR accordion ever
waaaaaaaay back when Mr. Kakahashi and Mr. Kato were working
out of their garages in Japan they did occasionally hang out and even
bounce stuff off each other but that was way before Digital.
way before any serious synth stuff, i mean monophonic
2 octave cool and fun keyboards using 1000 Ohm voltage
dividers to more or less get you each note's pitch and weird
transistor noisemaking circuits with timing functions to
build early primitive but also very cool rhythm machines
the Fisa and the 7/8x share no code, share no common
sound chips, share no nothing beyond "hey, look at what that one
does, lets do something better that is similar enough to steal their
customer base"
"how do we do that"
"get Bruti to give us a leg up, maybe he is tired of being retired"
Roland has never shared squat with Korg, and i absolutely guarantee you
that while Korg may have also licensed some stuff from Bruti, there was zip
zero absolutely nothing outside of Rolands own developed sound
engine in any FR accordion ever
waaaaaaaay back when Mr. Kakahashi and Mr. Kato were working
out of their garages in Japan they did occasionally hang out and even
bounce stuff off each other but that was way before Digital.
way before any serious synth stuff, i mean monophonic
2 octave cool and fun keyboards using 1000 Ohm voltage
dividers to more or less get you each note's pitch and weird
transistor noisemaking circuits with timing functions to
build early primitive but also very cool rhythm machines
the Fisa and the 7/8x share no code, share no common
sound chips, share no nothing beyond "hey, look at what that one
does, lets do something better that is similar enough to steal their
customer base"
"how do we do that"
"get Bruti to give us a leg up, maybe he is tired of being retired"
Thanks for the info -- always good to have your background/knowledge that you are willing to share on the forum.
Thomas N
Well-known member
Good. A rehash of decade-old technology is uninteresting to me. The Evo wasn't interesting to me.
All new and fresh is a good thing.
