Can not find this Scandalli model anywhere

[johandepuydt]

Hi,
I registered to this forum because I got my hands on a Scandalli&Deveydt model but can not find any information whatsoever. Anyone with a clue? I live in Belgium.

 

[Dingo40]

Welcome Johan!
Cute accordion

 

[Ffingers]

Interesting stepped bass keyboard, too.

 

[Squeezebox Of Delights]

I suspect it might have been manufactured by Scandalli for a local music shop, much like the Pancotti Jedson boxes that I see occasionally that were made by Pancotti to be sold by J. E. Dallas and Sons. It looks like quite an old instrument, maybe 1920s, and the stepped Belgian bass is very interesting. I've never seen it on such a small instrument before.

 

[johandepuydt]

I suspect it might have been manufactured by Scandalli for a local music shop, much like the Pancotti Jedson boxes that I see occasionally that were made by Pancotti to be sold by J. E. Dallas and Sons. It looks like quite an old instrument, maybe 1920s, and the stepped Belgian bass is very interesting. I've never seen it on such a small instrument before.

Hi. Thank you (all) for the answers. Any idea where I could find more information? Now I am getting very curious

 

[johandepuydt]

I opened the accordion and the name inside does not ring any bells on Google

 

[Ventura]

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apparently the music store located there is gone

LoL

 

[Ventura]

and of course there is a recent discussion over another DEVEYDT branded
Belgian accordion from that same period

Les Trois Freres Deveydt antique accordion

Hi Everyone, I am new to this forum and to the accordion. I recently purchased an old accordion from an antique store in Roseville, California. I mainly play the saxophone and at the time of purchase knew next to nothing about accordions. I love vintage/antique musical instruments and this one...

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i would guess that these 3 brothers Belgium accordion maker were buying bare bones
accordions from Scandalli to their specification then finishing them..
Scandalli may or may not have knows their name was being used/reused,
and of course Scandalli may have had absolutely nothing to do with DEVEYDT
but being far away in Italy may never have known they were being "borrowed"

the first point to establish, do any actual Scandalli's exist that have such a
Bass system ? would they have even considered in their own infancy tailoring
a model to the Belgian Marketplace? or ever had a model that even LOOKS
remotely like this one physically ? (i've never seen one)

i ask this because such variations were designed, fleshed out, and built
locally back in those days, as accordion types were very locally linked to
ability, wants, desires, affordability..

 

[johandepuydt]

and of course there is a recent discussion over another DEVEYDT branded
Belgian accordion from that same period

Les Trois Freres Deveydt antique accordion

Hi Everyone, I am new to this forum and to the accordion. I recently purchased an old accordion from an antique store in Roseville, California. I mainly play the saxophone and at the time of purchase knew next to nothing about accordions. I love vintage/antique musical instruments and this one...

www.accordionists.info

i would guess that these 3 brothers Belgium accordion maker were buying bare bones
accordions from Scandalli to their specification then finishing them..
Scandalli may or may not have knows their name was being used/reused,
and of course Scandalli may have had absolutely nothing to do with DEVEYDT
but being far away in Italy may never have known they were being "borrowed"

the first point to establish, do any actual Scandalli's exist that have such a
Bass system ? would they have even considered in their own infancy tailoring
a model to the Belgian Marketplace? or ever had a model that even LOOKS
remotely like this one physically ? (i've never seen one)

i ask this because such variations were designed, fleshed out, and built
locally back in those days, as accordion types were very locally linked to
ability, wants, desires, affordability..

Thank you Ventura for the clear explanation. I am not reading it with happiness because it gives me the feeling that this means it's rubbish although it looks nice...
Should it be worth the effort to go and find a specialist somewhere in Belgium? By opening it I also saw it needs some repairs too.

 

[Dingo40]

Well, so far as we can tell, it:
Appears to be from the 1930s.
Built by Scandalli for a Belgian agent and a Belgian retailer in Antwerp .
The bass layout is unusual currently but is strongly reminiscent of the "Belgian bass".
It's not exactly valuable or a collectible as such but not "rubbish", or it would not have survived some 90 years and a world war .
It's not beyond saving, but it would be a labour of love to do so
See here:

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Some more about it (on a CBA):

Here's an old thread on the subject:

Straight bass layout

Who uses this? And why?

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