Should I invest in MIDI WIDI or line6?

[Pipemajor]

Yes, I meant those GWS-28 with the 1/8" jack and adapter. I'm offered them at €50 with free shipping (as always in the EU: tax included). Prime membership may matter.

I have added the item to my wishlist, but it will have low priority.

I have the Getaria GWS28-BS which has 1/4" stereo jacks.
I have a wierd problem with them.
They work perfectly when plugged into my amp and mixer, but if I plug the transmitter diractly into my FR3XB, nothing!!.
Both channels on the FR work perfectly via mono cables into the amp.
I've looked through the manual but there was no usefull info.
Obviously I've double checked pairing and battery charge condition.
My next step is to get some dual mono to stereo convertor plugs to see if that has any effect.

 

[Chris Laarman]

Oops! - It seems to me that the TRS (Tip-Ring-Sleeve) stereo jacks act as <off> switches in the FR-3XB. (Rather: make a contact that cause the output to mute.)

If the FR-3XB features a Headphones Out (I assume 1/8") and you have a 1/4" (female) to 1/8" (male) TRS adapter, you could try if the connection works.
If it works with good sound quality, then you at least have a work-around.

Judging from the manual of my FR-1XB, it expects two mono jacks for stereo out. You could buy or make a Y-cable that merges the monaural signals of the two 1/4" TS male jacks into one 1/4" TRS female.

Please let me (us) know!

 

[davidplaysaccordion]

Plugging stereos jacks into mono sockets is hit or miss. You are probs my connecting to the tip and ring on the jack instead of tip (or middle) and sleeve I think the two into one adapter will fix your problem.

 

[JerryPH]

Plugging stereos jacks into mono sockets is hit or miss. You are probs my connecting to the tip and ring on the jack instead of tip (or middle) and sleeve I think the two into one adapter will fix your problem.

The 1/4" adapter should already be a "stereo to mono" or 2-in-to-one adapter?

 

[Chris Laarman]

CME have just entered a new phase in their development of their approach to wireless audio: iWA.

 

[JerryPH]

CME have just entered a new phase in their development of their approach to wireless audio: iWA.

Yes, back in Dec 26. They hit that 3000 mark real fast. Once they hit 5000 interested users, they go to the next phase of production. Right now they are at just under 3200 at the time of this posting.

 

[Pipemajor]

The 1/4" adapter should already be a "stereo to mono" or 2-in-to-one adapter?

Thanks for all your recommendations .
The FR3X has a 1/4" headphone socket but the manual warns against using it.
It also states that either mono out channel can be used to connect to an amp, but doesn't mention mono or stereo plugs.
I have ordered some mono to stereo adaptor leads so I'll give them a try when they arrive.

 

[Ventura]

explanation is buried in some old thread, but here is a short rehash:

the two audio outs on the V-Accordion are Tip Ring Sleeve physically,
but in this case when a (by design) mono connector is jacked in,
it tells the accordion to output L+R as a mixed output

if you jack into BOTH with MONO jacks/cables, you will have
left on one and right on the other

if you jack a 3 way Tip Ring Sleeve IN to either left or right,
the ring Connector is NOT shorted to Ground and therefore
the device will NOT know what to do regarding how to route
the audio signal output

however, a normal Headphone output is tip ring sleeve, and
for the V-Accordion (original FR7) inserting into this one
also signals the device to turn the internal speakers OFF
while giving you the correct audio in both your left and right
headphone speakers as Tip = right and Ring = left sleeve = ground

in other words, two mono cables FROM the V-Accordion into
whatever Wireless setup you choose.. two separate transmitters
or a stereo one, doesn't matter as long as you can wire it correctly

also, i would not advise physically summing two mono cables into one, as
the accordion will obviously do that for you without risk of damage
simply by plugging in only one mono cable and leaving the other one empty..

this might be confusing as visually, sometimes you will see an adaptor being used
that is two mono jacks cabled into a single wire with a tip-ring-sleeve
on the end for inserting into a tip-ring-sleeve mixer input channel.. this is just
for convenience to have one 10 foot cable to your Mixer rather than two

sometimes this is also seen with Audio Mic stereo accordion setups

note: while older devices use the tip ring sleeve shorting trick to physically
and directly route power or signals, the V-Accordion uses the
"trigger" affect to launch a logic circuit that makes the correct solution,
making it somewhat less forgiving or intuitive to us old timers

 

[Simon Max]

Hi,
I ordered a GWS-28 from Amazon and I should get it within a month. I also bought a USB cable and just connected the FR1x to a computer. I used this YouTube video to verify that the two are talking to each other.



Now I just have to figure out how to get Musescore to write down what I play.

 

[Chris Laarman]

Hi,
I ordered a GWS-28 from Amazon and I should get it within a month. I also bought a USB cable and just connected the FR1x to a computer. I used this YouTube video to verify that the two are talking to each other.



Now I just have to figure out how to get Musescore to write down what I play.

Well, that tutorial on MIDI connections looks good.

I can't remember ever having heard of Musescore, but the announcement of Musescore v4.0 on YouTube does look good. And it supports file format MusicXML.
Remarkable: the desktop edition seems free, the iOS edition fremium (free basic functionality, paid subscription).

 

[JerryPH]

Now I just have to figure out how to get Musescore to write down what I play.

Reaper can record MIDI. This is an aspect of our game that I have yet never used, to be honest, but back in 2016, I did purchase a simple MIDI in/out to USB connection (M-Audio MIDI Sport Uno, its not made anymore, but there are many other equivalent options), and tested if it worked, which in Reaper was very easy. I saw it worked, and placed it aside for another time.

I am sure that Musecore can do the same.

 

[Chris Laarman]

Reaper can record MIDI. This is an aspect of our game that I have yet never used, to be honest, but back in 2016, I did purchase a simple MIDI in/out to USB connection (M-Audio MIDI Sport Uno, its not made anymore, but there are many other equivalent options), and tested if it worked, which in Reaper was very easy. I saw it worked, and placed it aside for another time.

I am sure that Musecore can do the same.

Ah, the MIDI Sport - I had been looking for the name, as I have a 2x2 model somewhere.

@Simon Max: as JerryPH mentions, interfaces come in various models (and brands): MIDI-only, audio-only, MIDI-and-audio, with different numbers of connections. Maybe switches, too. Likely with some USB-connector on the computer side. - If you can't yet make up your mind, I suggest that you buy the cheapest one that seems to match your needs. Ten you'll have "wasted" the least money when you buy the one you had "needed" with hindsight.

Reaper and MuseScore: Reaper can handle both MIDI and audio, MuseScore apparently only MIDI (judging from the downloaded v3 manual, but it's in v4.0 now).

I noticed that MuseScore can also IMport Band-in-a-Box files (songs, not styles). The styles may be required for generating the songs, though.