Squeezeit24
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Is this always to do with leathers?
Wheezing keys: Columbus, Ohio USA
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Dingo40
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Squeezeit24
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It's a 96 bass Elio Gabbanelli made to order for me in Italy in 2005. If you reverse bellows direction, when playing the lower keys up to next octave C it wheezes, most prevalent on Bassoon Reed. It is musette tuned.This is rather cryptic !
Could you, please, elaborate somewhat?
Dingo40
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We have several members with considerable technical experience.
Hopefully we'll hear from them soon!
In the meantime, some pictures of your accordion could be helpful?
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First of all we don't know what you mean by "wheezing".
Maybe you can record a short video of what is going on and that gives us at least a minute chance of making a diagnosis.
Any undefined sound the low notes make on push can be caused by the leathers, but also by an issue with the positioning of the reeds, failing wax (unlikely in an accordion this young), an unwanted resonance somewhere...
Accordion repair is not unlike the work of an on-line vet who needs to guess what's wrong with an animal without the animal able to speak and without physical access to the animal... But at least in accordion repair it is possible to take pictures of the inside of the instrument.
Maybe you can record a short video of what is going on and that gives us at least a minute chance of making a diagnosis.
Any undefined sound the low notes make on push can be caused by the leathers, but also by an issue with the positioning of the reeds, failing wax (unlikely in an accordion this young), an unwanted resonance somewhere...
Accordion repair is not unlike the work of an on-line vet who needs to guess what's wrong with an animal without the animal able to speak and without physical access to the animal... But at least in accordion repair it is possible to take pictures of the inside of the instrument.
Ventura
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1: lower, larger reeds need more air
any defect that can bleed away some % of the air flow could cause your problem,
even something like your main bellows gaskets, which can seem tight during
squeeze "in", but can seep a bit when the accordion is "pulled apart"
where the wheeze is opposite that, i have also seen entire sections of
reeds that had a wax fracture where the edge lifted on a section from
air pressure, then closed back somewhat when the air pulled them back tight
any defect that can bleed away some % of the air flow could cause your problem,
even something like your main bellows gaskets, which can seem tight during
squeeze "in", but can seep a bit when the accordion is "pulled apart"
where the wheeze is opposite that, i have also seen entire sections of
reeds that had a wax fracture where the edge lifted on a section from
air pressure, then closed back somewhat when the air pulled them back tight
Squeezeit24
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Thanks! I can't do it now, but I will take of video of it played, and I assume the inside, showing the treble Reed blocks.
The video may already be telling enough, or at least tell enough to know what to look for inside.
Squeezeit24
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Squeezeit24
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I took video of me playing the lower keys and reversing bellows. Unfortunately, my phone won't attach it even though it is only 13 sec. In meantime here is picture of section of reed block with leathers not flush.We have several members with considerable technical experience.
Hopefully we'll hear from them soon!
In the meantime, some pictures of your accordion could be helpful?
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These leathers are "close enough" to being flush to not be the cause of any "wheezing". So we're no closer to a diagnosis.
Squeezeit24
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Thanks Debra. That eliminates that . I'm going to get some technical help on my video. As soon as i can do that, I will send it to you.
Squeezeit24
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Hi. Apparently this forum will not accept videos. I received a message to that effect
Do you have an e-mail that I can send the video of me playing?
Do you have an e-mail that I can send the video of me playing?
SteveBox
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Suggestion: Put your video in personal cloud storage (Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive, Apple iCloud, etc.) You can get a few GB free. Then create a share link to it that allows the file to be viewed by anyone who has the link. Then post the link here.
Example: Saltarelle Chavelle 2 voice.mp4
Example: Saltarelle Chavelle 2 voice.mp4
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TimeSwan
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I live in Columbus. If you would ever like for me to take a look feel free to reach out!
Another option is create a “channel” and upload the video to youtube. I find that an easy way to share.
Or upload it elsewhere and provide a url. This forum’s “Insert Media” function indicates it can use a url from these (and I suspect other) sources, perhaps useful if you already use one. ( One of my sons prefers Vimeo.)
You may insert media from these sources
JKJ
Squeezeit24
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Hi.Here is video of me playing and reversing bellows on lower keys. It is only noticable when reversing bellows.
Learning from the bitter experiences of others I will severely limit my access to all things googley.
SteveBox
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The link you have posted is private. Create a new share link for the file that "anyone on the internet with the link can view".
Squeezeit24
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Can you give me an e-mail to share the link to ?
