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New and asking for advice on a purchase!

Congratulations Joe on your recent purchase. I agree you've picked a fine instrument. I have to admit I've been following the various threads. I especially relate to your posts that have you tracking the accordion's progress on UPS. I tried to keep my checks down to a handful each day, and on delivery day tracked it until it was around the block!


My question is to you, Joe, or other forum members. Your photo shows two medium registers along with a high and low. Is that a musette setting?
most modern accordions have register switches that select different combinations of the various reed selections. Before that became the norm, manufacturers did like on here where you had a way to toggle each of the reed sets on and off individually and you had to combine these to make your combinations.
 
yeah, it seems like one of the mids has been tuned a little sharp so as to give that "sound", but my understanding is it is not as "musetty" as one that is specifically built for that purpose. One with 3 mediums...
 
Just to add to the discussion re "musette". and I'm assuming we speak of 2 sets of middle reeds to start with. In my stint with Excelsior who usually tuned accordions according to customers' requests, both retail and wholesale --- granted that was many years ago, I was shown a list of the various musette tunings requested by the customers. Apart from "dry or concert" tuning which gives a very slight tremolo as in my Excelsior - (but mine was tuned to A 442 not standard 440 by my request for reasons I may share later). If memory still holds, I think there were about 10-12 different tunings, for simplicity trying to standardize, labelled according to the customers' countries or areas. e.g., French, Italian, German, Cajun, Irish, Scottish... and within each there was a term called high or low.....hard or soft -- terms used depending on the tuner... Of course the professionals were very demanding regarding any hi-end instrument and often visited the factory to ensure their requests were honoured before purchasing. For a slice of humour, here's a bit of a true story.... (I remember one who was adamant that the tuning and keyboard touch were not quite the way he wanted, then after re-tuning and adjustments twice was still not satisfied and left saying he'd return the next day in a bit of a "huff" demanding it be perfect or else! With apologies the manager ensured him it would be done according to his standards.. After he left, knowing the professional well after many years of dealing with him, the manager instructed the tuner and keyboard adjuster to leave the instrument alone and not change anything... Next day, after carefully checking the instrument over and playing it for a few minutes, he said, "Great!! Why couldn't you do this yesterday and save me my time?!!! In opera, we used to call these "Prima Donas"! Not many like these fortunately..
With 3 sets of middle reeds, the sound possibilities are almost unlimited but it takes a real expert to satisfy the most discriminating players - and without ruining the reeds of course... the only limits are losing timbre or destroying the reed...and added weight can be an issue.
My simplistic analogy re accordion sounds and tuning and are like listening to a concert-tuned vs a "honky-tonk" slightly out-of-tune piano in comparing to accordion tuning.
And outside of music, I've found that it's a bit like comparing peppers,, hot, sauces, tabasco, jalapeno, paprika... with dozens of categories and tastes...In other words, define "hot" and "musette"!!!
. My bottom line in music and in food,, "Chaque a son gout!"! Each to his/her taste!
No doubt, there will be reactions but that's what this forum is all about as I've read....
 
If I could ask Ricardo a well known question: What's your opinion of the difference between MM 'violin' and MMM musette (on Excelsiors probably) ?
I've never played MMM but I like 'german' violin a lot (16 cents on a Hohner Lucia IV P).
 
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OK!!! I HAVE MADE MY DECISION AND ORDERED DELIVERY!!!! Happy Birthday to me!! I am not gonna tell you all yest what it is...I will show ya when it gets here with a video or pic. I want to thank everyone again for your advice and...if you'd like, take a guess what I got!! Either the Wurlitzer, Pan Crucianelli, International Detroit, or Excelsior! Any guesses??!!

Could it be “all the above and never mind the cost?” (if only!) Whatever it is, I wish you joy of it 🎶
 
In answer to Glug, thank you for the question, but I don't pretend to know the answer especially being unfamiliar with that Hohner model.. However, as I stated, it's a matter of personal preference and appreciation of the limits of what can be achieved by discriminating players and tuners.
Just to add to the discussion and perhaps dilemmas re musette tuning and number of reeds, obviously the volume with an additional middle set will increase as will some weight, but I must add that other factors can change the sound depending on such factors as 1 or 2 sets in cassotto, whether the chamber is made with aluminium, steel or wood - or even plastic to save weight!! - which I've seen, - the quality of the reeds and reed blocks and of course all the other parts which may be wood, plastic, metal or composites. all of which affect sound. I strongly believe that the proper type of wood provides the best sounds, usually spruce, walnut or ash with a minimum of metal in the instrument.. Without naming it, I believe that at least 1 Italian manufacturer prided itself on building models with almost exclusively with wood apart from some basic critical parts almost impossible to make from wood.. like reeds!!
Again, spoken as an old-timer "classicist". Strange how mechanically-produced sounds of LP's are returning in popularity from the technologically 'advanced' tapes, DVD's and microchips.... at least in North America.... perhaps analagous to traditional reeded vs 'virtual' accordions?
Should generate more discussion.
 
Not trying to be arrogant or anything, but I thought some might enjoying the journey with me....is there a category for journaling the journey I take learning to play this beast, or should I just start a new forum thread and post vids to it every week or whatever? Any thoughts?
 
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