Patti Bros age? Pulled TWO key axle shafts!

[Dingo40]

Again, I haven't done this myself and so can only tell you what the 1950-ish manual by an experienced repairman recommended.

Desperate times call for desperate measures!
I'd be inclined to file this technique under the heading of "don't try this at home "!
I remember when we followed the instructions for preparing a Christmas pudding (as naive, rookie newlyweds) which recommended boiling the pudding in water for six hours!
It must have been a misprint (we later saw also repeated in other cookery books) as, after six hours of boiling, the pudding was totally charred (burnt) throughout.
I never knew, till then, you could char something simply by boiling it in water long enough!
On reading the extract of John Reuther's instructions (thanks, Henry) I see there's more to the technique than just connecting up a full strength battery.
Even so, he admits this technique is capable of drawing the temper out of the rod.

 

[John Doe]

Even so, he admits this technique is capable of drawing the temper out of the rod.

The real concern is the temper of the home repairman after his keyboard catches on fire and he burns his fingers while dealing with the red hot rod in the midst of the conflagration...

Seriously, doesn't really appear to be that difficult but I assuredly am not going to attempt it myself.

The "drill a hole and tap the out from the top to start it" approach is one I have successfully employed and with care (and minimal skill- which describes me to a "T") it is a useable solution of last resort if the thing is really frozen in place and you're about to ruin something otherwise.

 

[JKJ]

For firmly holding or pulling small diameter rods and wires, it‘s hard to beat a hand vice, used by mechanics, machinists, jewelers, pattern makers, and others. My primary tool box would feel a great loss without several types of these. I don’t use them often but when needed not much else will do the job as well.

Can be used to pull wire through a draw plate to reduce diameter. The handle is designed for twisting. Some types have a hole all the way through the handle so long wires/shafts can be easily moved down the wire and gripped to twist again close to where needed (while either pulling or pushing). The jaws on some are machined specifically to grip and pull small diameter metal rods/wires, including while twisting.



I don’t have this specific model but it’s typical:

https://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Jewelers-Adjustable-Working-Drawing/dp/B06ZZMYF7Y

As for getting a clean end on a shaft or wire after cuting by any means, a fine grit bench grinder (I use CBN wheels) followed by fine sandpaper or jewelers file can remove any distortion. If it needed precision I’d cut off the distortion with a metal lathe but not everyone has one at hand, Could easily put a gentle bevel on the end for ease in insertion.

If needing to drill precision alligned holes in a bunch of keys (or anything else) nothing beats making a precision jig and clamping each piece in place, properly index, and drilling with a milling machine. Also a nice tool to have at hand for creating and repairing things. A jig could also be used in a solid drill press.

JKJ

 

[John M]

For firmly holding or pulling small diameter rods and wires, it‘s hard to beat a hand vice, used by mechanics, machinists, jewelers, pattern makers, and others. My primary tool box would feel a great loss without several types of these. I don’t use them often but when needed not much else will do the job as well.

Can be used to pull wire through a draw plate to reduce diameter. The handle is designed for twisting. Some types have a hole all the way through the handle so long wires/shafts can be easily moved down the wire and gripped to twist again close to where needed (while either pulling or pushing). The jaws on some are machined specifically to grip and pull small diameter metal rods/wires, including while twisting.



I don’t have this specific model but it’s typical:

https://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Jewelers-Adjustable-Working-Drawing/dp/B06ZZMYF7Y

As for getting a clean end on a shaft or wire after cuting by any means, a fine grit bench grinder (I use CBN wheels) followed by fine sandpaper or jewelers file can remove any distortion. If it needed precision I’d cut off the distortion with a metal lathe but not everyone has one at hand, Could easily put a gentle bevel on the end for ease in insertion.

If needing to drill precision alligned holes in a bunch of keys (or anything else) nothing beats making a precision jig and clamping each piece in place, properly index, and drilling with a milling machine. Also a nice tool to have at hand for creating and repairing things. A jig could also be used in a solid drill press.

JKJ

That is a real neat tool that I wasn't aware of . I am going to order one. I can see many "things" I can use this for.

I can't believe all the information I receive on this Forum. Many folks on here are a "Jack Of All Trades, Master Of None" (like me), Oh, Oh -- I better watch it -- I realize we have some very skilled professionals on this Forum--I respect that--I learn a huge amount of information from them. There is everything on this Forum from "Soup To Nuts". Oh, Oh, someone may take this the wrong way -- -- I think I will "sign off"
John

 

[Ffingers]

That is a real neat tool that I wasn't aware of . I am going to order one. I can see many "things" I can use this for.

I can't believe all the information I receive on this Forum. Many folks on here are a "Jack Of All Trades, Master Of None" (like me), Oh, Oh -- I better watch it -- I realize we have some very skilled professionals on this Forum--I respect that--I learn a huge amount of information from them. There is everything on this Forum from "Soup To Nuts". Oh, Oh, someone may take this the wrong way -- -- I think I will "sign off"
John

Verily!
Soup, cider, syncopating, celluloid repair, & stuff in general all on here somewhere in the annals of the site.
Marvellous place and people.

Luv youse all.

 

[JKJ]

That is a real neat tool that I wasn't aware of . I am going to order one. I can see many "things" I can use this for.

I can't believe all the information I receive on this Forum. Many folks on here are a "Jack Of All Trades, Master Of None" (like me), Oh, Oh -- I better watch it -- I realize we have some very skilled professionals on this Forum--I respect that--I learn a huge amount of information from them. There is everything on this Forum from "Soup To Nuts". Oh, Oh, someone may take this the wrong way -- -- I think I will "sign off"
John

One thing I’ve learned over the many decades has been to acquire the good tools and the right tools for the job - and they last forever. (I pity the family having go go through my shops when I kick off!

My wife has never been in the shop - as the best chef in the southeast (IMHO) her queendom is the kitchen, pantry, and freezers. We eat like royalty!. She said one thing she learned from me (probably the only thing!) was to buy good tools.

My job, beside enjoying the bounty, is to open containers, fix anything needed, sharpen the cutlery, and and make custom things as requested or needed or as I'm inspired. For example, I love woodturning and the kitchen can benefit, just a few things I've made for that:

Pepper, salt grinders (cocobolo and dogwood)

mortar and pestle for herbs (olive wood)

Oven rack sticks (pull, push)

Meat tenderizer

Rolling pin made to her specs (olive)

Container for pinches of salt, Ikea jar with custom lid (cedar)

Small container (hackberry)

Platters, larger is 19" dia (sapele)

Small "squarish dished platters" (one of my specialties)
Good for cookies, pencils, anything. 7-10" across.

JKJ

 

[PhiliGol]

One thing I’ve learned over the many decades has been to acquire the good tools and the right tools for the job - and they last forever. (I pity the family having go go through my shops when I kick off!

My wife has never been in the shop - as the best chef in the southeast (IMHO) her queendom is the kitchen, pantry, and freezers. We eat like royalty!. She said one thing she learned from me (probably the only thing!) was to buy good tools.

My job, beside enjoying the bounty, is to open containers, fix anything needed, sharpen the cutlery, and and make custom things as requested or needed or as I'm inspired. For example, I love woodturning and the kitchen can benefit, just a few things I've made for that:

Pepper, salt grinders (cocobolo and dogwood)

mortar and pestle for herbs (olive wood)

Oven rack sticks (pull, push)

Meat tenderizer

Rolling pin made to her specs (olive)

Container for pinches of salt, Ikea jar with custom lid (cedar)

Small container (hackberry)

Platters, larger is 19" dia (sapele)

Small "squarish dished platters" (one of my specialties)
Good for cookies, pencils, anything. 7-10" across.

JKJ

You're are true artisan artist John

Merry Christmas to you and all family/farm members.

 

[Tom]

One thing I’ve learned over the many decades has been to acquire the good tools and the right tools for the job - and they last forever. (I pity the family having go go through my shops when I kick off!

My wife has never been in the shop - as the best chef in the southeast (IMHO) her queendom is the kitchen, pantry, and freezers. We eat like royalty!. She said one thing she learned from me (probably the only thing!) was to buy good tools.

My job, beside enjoying the bounty, is to open containers, fix anything needed, sharpen the cutlery, and and make custom things as requested or needed or as I'm inspired. For example, I love woodturning and the kitchen can benefit, just a few things I've made for that:

Pepper, salt grinders (cocobolo and dogwood)

mortar and pestle for herbs (olive wood)

Oven rack sticks (pull, push)

Meat tenderizer

Rolling pin made to her specs (olive)

Container for pinches of salt, Ikea jar with custom lid (cedar)

Small container (hackberry)

Platters, larger is 19" dia (sapele)

Small "squarish dished platters" (one of my specialties)
Good for cookies, pencils, anything. 7-10" across.

JKJ

Beautiful! Even though this is an accordion forum, it’s cool to see your artistry, thanks!

 

[JKJ]

That is a real neat tool that I wasn't aware of . I am going to order one. I can see many "things" I can use this for.

This is one of hand vises, one view showing how you can "choke" up on a long wire or shaft to enable twisting and pulling with less chance of causing damage.
The other view shows the end and how it's shaped in the center to better grip a wire.






JKJ

 

[JKJ]

Beautiful! Even though this is an accordion forum, it’s cool to see your artistry, thanks!

Thanks. I do get carried away and off topic at times, even losing sight of the point. The point here may not have been clear: good tools can make a difference everywhere. Making or doing almost anything can be SO much more enjoyable with the right tools. (And the result of having good tools in the kitchen sure makes ME happy!)

The biggest problem sometimes? Knowing what tools are available. The second biggest - convincing oneself investing in those tools is worth it in the long run, even if not used every day.

Sure, I can “get by” with cheap, for example, lathe tools, but some things are simply easier and more quickly done with the appropriate tool kit! From watching an experienced tech I’m sure the same philosophy holds for accordion work.

JKJ