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So, you want/got a smaller, lighter accordion?

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Beautiful, Sandy Brechin is playing a small Hohner 48 bass, weight will be around 4,5 kg. These light boxes have a good sound.
Perfect for folk tunes.
 
jarvo said:
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Saw it this time, Chris.. congratulations, great effort too!Im not ready to migrate from PA..yet![/quote]

I use it when the other gets a bit heavy....in fact I use it quite a lotta...as a side instrument they are huge fun ...and as a main instrument Ill bet that they can be phenomenal..well the guys on here show that !!.....like playing the mouth harp without all that tedious breathing and sucking and blowing stuff ....and you can sneak a peek at what youre doing ....or at least count buttons with your fingers.....and it does not seem to interefere or diminish your PA skills ......


CJ
 
I'd have not included a 48 bass as a realistic prospect until I heard the Sandy Brechin stuff, but now it is, albeit with the reservation if you desire a broader repertoire you may need more basses.
Just a caveat tho', his instrument, and other youtube samples, may not be standard 'out of the box' tuning, so if you're buying, make sure you are getting what you expect... ideally play & hear it first... but you know all that.

And in 'mere mortal' hands it may not sound as good anyhow... :cry:

But if you fancy summat light and capable & maybe cheap enough, this is what I've found examples off, so far, in the Hohner 'cheerful' range, all with full size 20mm keys:

Model; Treble keys/Bass buttons; VoicesT/B; T/B couplers; Weight KGs (apprx prob inc straps)
Arietta 1 26/48 2/3 3/0 4.6
Arietta 1M 34/72 2/4 3/0 6.0
Arietta 2M 34/72 3/4 5/2 7.0
Concerto II 34/72 2/4 3/0 6.0
Concerto III N 34/72 3/4 5/2 7.0 (ex straps, +0.5 with)

Ariettas ....1953 - 1957, replaced by
Concerto ...1957 on. 'N' early 81 -84; 'S' 85 -90; 'T' 1995 - 1999(?)
 
Soulsaver said:
German made late 1980s Hohner Concerto 111 - 3/72/5/2. Think theyre c16lbs (c7.5kgs) coming Wednesday/Thursday.
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how is it ?

the description sounds exactly like mine but mine is the S model (see my profile pic)
 
Splendid, I've sorted the probs with it but cant give it a good workout with the aftermath of surgery yet, but it's ready when I am. Usual surprisingly boisterous Hohner stuff, big output from a small box. It's the 'N' model, 'T' stamped reeds. Internally it is immaculate, no rust on reeds & valves all flat.
The 'S' is the later model (1985-90)- not sure of the exact differences but the later still model 'T' (nothing to d o with reed plates) has a new keyboard mechanism, I believe.
 
Here's an idea to lighten the load. Go to youtube and put in - Lord Gordon's Reel toy accordion - played by Hector Awol. Just shows how little you need to make music.

They sell here for $25. I'm going to get one for my granddaughter, she loves the accordion and sings all day long. She remembers all the words to complex sea shanties her dad plays on his guitar.

nathen
 
Heres the link -

and may I just say: WHAT THE? Thats unbelievable... Oh, and its a melodeon, or diatonic button accordion...
 
its brilliant! I have a stong feeling that its been modified using hohner reeds ( quite a few people have done this) The original reeds just havnt the same response or fullness of sound. As to what you can get out of 10 buttons on a diatonic it is of course 20 individual notes so this one will have two full octaves in C. Two notes per button do have their advantages eg 4 fingersworth of buttons plays eight notes so many tunes need either no or very little hand movement.

george
 
Another impressive option, but harder to find is the Hohner Regina - however I believe its not only small but a compact too. So I believe it may have narrower keys which will affect your finger memory, although no more prob than moving between 41/37/34 etc keys.
It has 34 treble, & (think) 111 basses.
I've borrowed the pic (courtesy of Theo) from the 'great PA makes' thread.
Unforunately we don't have the weight for the Regina...

The Student (as posted by Anyanka earlier) is also a contender for the useful light & mobile boxes.
 

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I posted up some relatively inexpensive options earlier in the thread. If you have a little more in the budget you could consider a Pigini - several alternative models, here's one I have the detail for, currently (07/07/14) in the 'for sale' section - no connection).

PIGINI PRELUDIO P36 34/72 3/4 voice 7kgs
 
The Hohner Arietta 72 1m that I've just bought is only 6.1 kg. The only other accordion I have to compare it with is a Walther Teeny 48N made by Weltmeister which weighs 5.9kg and which i never managed to play although I always liked the sound. I find the larger Arietta much easier to hold and to play - the keyboard is nice and the bellows are easy to manage. It has only 2 voices but they're both lovely - a clear 'clarinet' and a tremolo which I believe is wet tuned i.e. it warbles beautifully. I am a beginner with no accordion experience but to me it sounds lovely. I can't put it down.
 
Have a look at the Borsini Vagabond.

It's a 48-bass shell with 72 basses squeezed into it. I think that Emilio Allodi (of Allodi Accordions) has a Fantini accordion with a similar arrangement.
 
rbs said:
Have a look at the Borsini Vagabond.

Its a 48-bass shell with 72 basses squeezed into it. I think that Emilio Allodi (of Allodi Accordions) has a Fantini accordion with a similar arrangement.
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See here

Borsini Vagabond 30/72 3/4 5/2 c.15lb/6.5kgs but ... $5k (2014) above...or:

http://www.accordions.co.uk/Newinstviewdocs.htm/BorsVag.htm At £2800 New 2014
 
This is a small, light weight accordion that looks good for my purposes. It is a 4-row, 48 buttons 37 tones, 60 bass and weighs just 5,2 kilo.
But what does sistema francese (french system) refer to? That it is the C-system or that the bass is of the french type that leaves out the 7-chords? The bass only has 5 rows after all.

http://www.giustozzi.it/ws/index.php?route=product/product&path=65&product_id=97
 
barkis said:
But what does sistema francese (french system) refer to? That it is the C-system or that the bass is of the french type that leaves out the 7-chords? The bass only has 5 rows after all.

http://www.giustozzi.it/ws/index.php?route=product/product&path=65&product_id=97
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I guessed the latter, but after looking around for confirmation Im not so sure. Possible meanings:
  • C griff, i.e. as opposed to B.
  • 3/3 stradella bass (not really, here, but see below.)
  • C chromatic converter bass
  • a slightly more compact button spacing, with noticeably smaller buttons.
  • reeds arranged in 3 banks for a deeper chamber and more open grill ... (OK, heres the Italian, see what you think: Il sistema francese è la fisarmonica cromatica in cui le soniere sono disposte su 3 file quindi cassa più profonda e compatta, mascherina cromata molto aperta il tutto a vantaggio di un suono migliore.

The 3/3 system manages to dispense with one of the chord rows by making the other serve for either. The last chord row is a dominant 7 but without the root - so its also a diminished for an adjacent row. Thats also pretty sensible for a 5 row 60 bass, but I guess its not standard. Maybe sistema francese means only that, here.

I have no clue, really.

Il sistema che in Italia viene chiamato sistema francese è noto in Francia, con giusta ragione, come sistema italiano.
 
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